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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 10, 2005 4:13 pm)  I almost finished your post before realizing it wasn't from Mark Cincinnati  It was a fairly long post...you started with a question... you added a bit of wry humor....you talked about the 70's...you threw in some obscure, albeit resourceful logic...and you end with a colloquialism phrase. Did you guys attend the same writing class? (End of smaller rant!)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 10, 2005 4:13 pm) I keep on hearing the same question in many forums? The fact of the matter is that most people buy a BMW because most models have the best drivetrains/chassis combo in the industry. Customers love the way they drive and based on JD Power and Consumer Reports figures most BMW models(except the 7 series) are not unreliable So does that mean there are no BMW badger hunters? Ofcourse there are! There are as many BMW badge hunters as there are Lexus badge hunters, especially among the majority of Lexus owners who feel distinguished by buying a Lexus RX330/ES330 versus a Toyota Highlander/Camry! |
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Replying to: jjacura (Nov 10, 2005 4:58 pm) www.chronocentric.com/watches/brands.shtml and read the parts about "Aren't Rolex the best watches in the world?" and "If Rolex is not the only superior watch brand, why haven't I heard of these other watches?". Let's not underestimate the importance of the 1980's yuppies on the popularity of German sedans. I was a yuppie back then (hate to admit it though) and had to own that Porsche. Remember how they went from exclusive to common? How did that eventually work out? I feel honored to be compared with Mark but he is definitely the "luxury" writer in this forum. I'm a want-to-be envious of Marks' writing abilities.
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 10, 2005 5:19 pm) Couldn't actually find this info in my book of facts. It's your opinion (and I know it's not based on your bias) and may be correct for most BMW owners on this forum - however I'm not sure it applies to most 5-series buyers who never bless us with their company. Lexus badge hunters, especially among the majority of Lexus owners who feel distinguished by buying a Lexus RX330/ES330 versus a Toyota Highlander/Camry! Hmm...longer warranty, better customer service experience, slightly higher quality of materials..... |
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 10, 2005 6:16 pm) Couldn't actually find this info in my book of facts. It's your opinion (and I know it's not based on your bias) and may be correct for most BMW owners on this forum Pick up any magazine/newspaper/online comparo and most will agree with the BMW drive... Obviously it's a subjective rating, but if virtually all professional comparo people say the same thing year after year, there must be something to it.
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 10, 2005 6:16 pm)
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Replying to: bdr127 (Nov 10, 2005 7:34 pm) Anyhow I originally just wondered about the psychological motivation behind LPS purchases and what role the badge had in that process. Debating which LPS is the best car is not my intent. Prestige, ego-stroking and brand are important for the sales of all luxury goods (Rolex watches, Chanel Handbags etc.) so it does have an impact on LPS sales. |
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Replying to: bdr127 (Nov 10, 2005 7:34 pm) Couldn't actually find this info in my book of facts. It's your opinion (and I know it's not based on your bias) and may be correct for most BMW owners on this forum Pick up any magazine/newspaper/online comparo and most will agree with the BMW drive... Hey, I think you misunderstood DrT's point: Even if it is a widely held and therefore true "fact" that BMWs have the best drive train/chassis combo, whether that is the primary reason people buy BMWs (as opposed to its status, or its included maintenance plan, or whatever) is a separate issue and NOT itself a "fact" - unless you have some marketing survey of BMW buyers that you would like to share with us. Hey, I think the above qualifies as the longest sentence I've ever written for a forum! Subsequent edit: DrT posted simultaneously his own explanation consistent with what I wrote above. I should have known he didn't need my defense... |
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 10, 2005 6:04 pm) |
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Just read an Edmunds Inside interview with BMW Chairman Helmut Panke! BAD NEWS FROM BMW Everything in this interview curbed my enthusiasm about the future of BMW. Here are the three main points that I found least exciting: 1)Regarding the upcoming 1 series in North America: Q:Is a three-box sedan more likely? A:There are many alternatives. We have not given that away, but it's not going to be a hatch. I would never ever consider buying a 1 series unless it was a hatchback! I would favor an Audi A3 hatch versus a unpractical sub-compact sedan 1 series. 2) In the interview Mr. Panke talks about two vehicles: a crossover version of the X5 series and a "functional concept vehicle" IMO BMW will begin to spread itself far too thin with these minivan variations! It should remain a niche player and focus on its strengths: sport performance cars! 3) Also he talked about a hydrogen BMW 7 series! I just cant wait to read future posts in this forum about the CR reliability of a hydrogen 7 series vehicle
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