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#3903 of 10007 Re: New M35x [armen6] by jjacura Sep 12, 2005 (12:36 pm)
Replying to: armen6 (Sep 11, 2005 7:25 pm) I believe Porsche and if I may correctly spell Maserati for you, are in a class that the M can't touch and they have already made hundreds of cars that M can't compete with...IN MY Opinion. And also, you might find some others in this forum that believe their LPS choice, quite to the contrary IS not boring. I personally don't like the Infiniti design and would choose Acura, BMW, Lexus, and even Audi over Infiniti...but again IMO.
#3904 of 10007 Re: New M35x [armen6] by markcincinnati Sep 12, 2005 (1:08 pm)
Replying to: armen6 (Sep 11, 2005 7:25 pm) You are entitled to your opinion.   I looked up the word, "hooey," to make sure it applied however.   It does.   I ordered an "M35X" because at the time I felt it was of very high value and the Audi A6 3.2 was priced out of touch with reality and there was no 530xi at the moment.   The M35X is a fine car, perhaps an excellent or great car.   I would be happy to have one. It was my second choice, however.   Your choice IS best for you. The "M" has hardly separated itself from the the other "boring" brands -- indeed IMHO it is the poster child for "boring" (in terms of its styling.)   Superior? Well, while I am certainly NOT against the M35X, I would have to say that the Acura RL, Audi q, BMW x, Mercedes 4Matics and even the Cadillac STS (AWD) are not bad cars. These cars, in many respects are more similar than dissimilar.   You should enjoy your car, be proud of your car and I hope the ownership experience is fantastic for you.   Perhaps rather than declare the rest of us LPS owners of something OTHER than an M as having chosen "inferior" cars, you could regale us with stories about your vehicle without resorting to blanket statements.   OK, so the M isn't boring to you -- and I already said I would take one -- but there are quite possibly others who will have strong disagreement and will fight tooth and nail the statements such as the ones where their choices have been put down.   The LPS cars we discuss are not carbon copies of each other, but in terms of their overall features, functions and driving experience the differences are real and are subtle.   I know that my Audi A6 3.2 is the best and it has separated itself from all these other lesser cars that have the audacity to claim LPS status. Or words to that effect. See? (Oh BTW, that last bit: just kidding!) Replies to this message: jjacura (Sep 12, 2005 1:19 pm) lexusguy (Sep 12, 2005 8:57 pm) ksoman (Sep 13, 2005 6:11 am) lexusguy (Sep 13, 2005 7:50 am) and 3 more... bdr127 (Sep 13, 2005 12:23 pm)
#3905 of 10007 Re: New M35x [markcincinnati] by jjacura Sep 12, 2005 (1:19 pm)
Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 12, 2005 1:08 pm) I would concur...the word "Hooey" does apply!
#3906 of 10007 Re: New M35x [armen6] by msu79gt82 Sep 12, 2005 (1:28 pm)
Replying to: armen6 (Sep 11, 2005 7:25 pm) I have only driven it home and docked in the garage. I will continue to use my '00 Maxima until I am ready to part with her, a loyal and faithful partner for five years.     I've never heard of anyone buying a car to save for later I mean, don't get me wrong, I stock up on a lot of stuff at the grocery store when it goes on sale - but I've never stocked up on cars before Good luck on your M when you finally get around to driving it (before the '07s arrive I hope).
#3907 of 10007 what's up with that? by hpowders Sep 12, 2005 (2:02 pm)
With my 545i I get 20 mpg in combined city highway driving and 27 mpg on the open highway from the unbelievable BMW 8. What kind of mpg have you been getting in your superior M 35 with the Infiniti 6? 15-17 mpg? If my 545i is boring, give me excess of it!   Replies to this message: freddybb (Sep 13, 2005 6:08 am) drtravel (Sep 13, 2005 7:56 am) hpowders (Sep 13, 2005 1:14 pm)
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#3909 of 10007 Re: New M35x [markcincinnati] by lexusguy Sep 12, 2005 (8:57 pm)
Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 12, 2005 1:08 pm) I agree. The GS is probably the least entertaining car to drive in this class, (well except for maybe the base STS that I believe was bashed in C&D) but this is a class of VERY entertaining cars. Fortunately it sounds like Lexus has gotten the IS350 right. C&D had a few nit-picks in their review, but they did not bash VDIM other than to mention that there is no off switch. Its 306hp was good for a class busting 5.1 second 0-60 sprint with an autobox, beating the G35 6MTs 298hp by a good second or so. It sounds like the IS is packing BMW horses and not Infiniti ponies. I'm itching for a test-flog. Replies to this message: ksoman (Sep 13, 2005 6:11 am) lexusguy (Sep 13, 2005 7:50 am) ksoman (Sep 13, 2005 10:14 am) and 2 more... bdr127 (Sep 13, 2005 12:23 pm)
#3910 of 10007 Re: what's up with that? [hpowders] by freddybb Sep 13, 2005 (6:08 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Sep 12, 2005 2:02 pm) And I am getting an incredible 30-33 mpg on the highway in 6th gear with my manual transmission BMW 530xi. My average over about 400 miles for the past four gas tank fill-ups is about 24-25 mpg -- very respectable for an AWD car.   The M is a nice car, but it was a clear second choice for me to the BMW 530xi I bought (first time BMW owner) because of the lack of a manual transmission, the awful gas mileage, the blah styling, and the overwrought interior with the canted-to-the-top console.   Oh, and BTW, the extra 25 HP in the M35x does NOT make it faster than the 530xi because the M weighs almost 400 lbs more than the 530xi. In a previous post I had mentioned that the lbs per HP that each car has to move are pretty much exactly the same. So they are both equally fast, and the BMW has a MUCH higher fuel efficiency -- go figure!!   Every once in a while I have to put out a post like this after reading a hundred posts from M owners claiming they have the best car on the planet. Not true, just personal opinions like mine, of course!

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