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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: M August Sales [drtravel] Mid Size US Luxury Sales [sacguy] [drtravel] [bartalk3] by chuck1959
Sep 08, 2005 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Sep 07, 2005 1:56 pm)

Where do you go find out production and sales #'s on cars?
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Re: Motor Trend's Import Car of the Year [bdr127] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 08, 2005 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: bdr127 (Sep 08, 2005 12:45 pm)

Trust me.... the winner is whoever buys the advertising package that comes along with the award...
 
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Re: M August Sales [drtravel] Mid Size US Luxury Sales [sacguy] [drtravel] [bartalk3] [chuck1959] by bartalk3
Sep 08, 2005 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1959 (Sep 08, 2005 3:58 pm)

The trade magazine "Automotive News" has monthly figures on sales, by model.
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Re: What is the best LPS? [frisconick] by lexusguy
Sep 08, 2005 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: frisconick (Sep 08, 2005 10:32 am)

If you're concerned about reliability, get a Lexus GS. It might not be as classy, but it will get you home, every time.
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Re: What is the best LPS? [lexusguy] by hendjaz
Sep 08, 2005 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 08, 2005 7:53 pm)

"get a Lexus GS"
 
I might do this when the GS 450h comes out next spring. After a short time in our RX 400h, can't wait for what the Lexus hybrid performance approach will do for the GS. Hope it comes out with a bit better performance suspension as the 400h has, with 18" wheels and tires standard. Great torque and accleration on demand may really bring the GS up a couple of notches in the LPS evaluations. Fingers crossed anyway.
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Re: What is the best LPS? [hendjaz] by lexusguy
Sep 09, 2005 (1:23 am)
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Replying to: hendjaz (Sep 08, 2005 9:05 pm)

The 450h actually doesnt make a lot of sense to me. If Lexus had made it AWD then yeah, great idea. But its going to be RWD, just like the GS430. Acceleration should similar to the 430. Its supposed to cost more than the GS430, but I dont really see any advantage other than fuel economy. If it was using the 4.3L V8 and HSD to make a 375hp+ GS500h or something like that for $65K or so then that would also make sense, but they arent doing that either. Having both the 430 and the 450h at once seems very redundant. Also, what happens when the 430 is replaced by the 460? Where does the 450h fit then, if its supposed to slot above the 430? I dont understand Lexus' logic with this car.
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Re: What is the best LPS? [lexusguy] by bartalk3
Sep 09, 2005 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 09, 2005 1:23 am)

Lexusguy: when do you figure Lexus will introduce the GS350--next spring, alongside the 450h or next fall, presumably when the 460 debuts? When the 350 comes out, do you think they'll drop the GS300, or continue it, as BMW does with its, say, 525 and 530, etc.?
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Re: What is the best LPS? [frisconick] by bigrobnh
Sep 09, 2005 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: frisconick (Sep 08, 2005 10:32 am)

From my own personal experience I would only go with the Benz if the dealership is very close to where you live or work. Better yet, some form of personal reference regarding their service department would also help.
 
My 2001 has had LOTS of problems...I have a stack of service records several inches deep. The thing that is maddening is that it's as if (at the time) they had no quality feedback loop. The w210 version was introduced as something like a '97. That's 4 iterations and it still has had all the same bugs everybody talks abou ton this forum. Luckily, with the approx 12k mile service interval you can just pile up the issues and have them address them when you are in for scheduled maint (as long as the problem isn't severe like a leaking transmission x3 or BAS/ABS failure, etc).
 
My dealership (that I've grown to despise) is a 50+ mile round trip. If it were 5, even after my experience, I'd consider it again. As it is. No way. Bring on the LS460AWD.
 
Regards,
BigRob.
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2006 Lexus GS300 regular vs super by airlinephoto
Sep 09, 2005 (7:38 am)
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I've been putting in super since day one, now at a bit over 5,000 miles I am trying regular for the first time with a fillup yesterday- after 40 miles, no noticeable difference. See the below. I use my car primarily to commute to the office, no racing or any type of high performance driving.
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• How thirsty? GS 300 RWD is rated 22 miles per gallon in town, 30 on the highway. GS 300 AWD is 21/27. GS 430 is 18/25. Premium fuel is necessary to get advertised power. Regular is OK but cuts horsepower 2% to 6%, Lexus says.

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