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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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kyfdx becomes a host and gas prices go up by ksoman
Sep 06, 2005 (8:42 am)
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I always remember him as having a jumble of letters that resemble a radio station name... now i've to be wary of the fact that he could be my monitor too?
 
i'm seriously wondering how the august/sep gas price shock is going to affect the increasing sales of entry and mid size luxury cars, people who became car rich in the booming 90s and more recent years.
 
A number of my friends who own G35s are clamoring to change because of mileage issues. I was at a BP station on sunday pumping 3.69 premium into my wife's 3 convertible and a guy in a lexus gx470 pulls up and fills up just a few cents over 87 bucks. My eyes turned white, but when I saw his eyes, i saw only the white part and nothing else.. no iris... LOL.
 
I was waiting for the launch of the 550i, but suddenly, i don't think i'm so horsepower hungry at $3+ of gas....
 
ksso
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Re: kyfdx becomes a host and gas prices go up [ksoman] by docnukem
Sep 06, 2005 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: ksoman (Sep 06, 2005 8:42 am)

Based on the title of your post, it sounds like you are postulating a cause and effect. To heck with Katrina, it's all kyfdx's fault.
 
I do love my M35x, but in March I was also considering the Honda Accord Hybrid. The decision would still be no different, but I might have paused longer.
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Re: kyfdx becomes a host and gas prices go up [ksoman] by lexusguy
Sep 06, 2005 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: ksoman (Sep 06, 2005 8:42 am)

"Record-high gas prices are taking a toll on sales of large sport-utility vehicles, The Detroit News reported.
 
Sales of GM's Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon and Hummer H2 all fell more than 30 percent, for example.
 
Not all gas-guzzlers are suffering, however. Luxury car and pickup sales remain brisk, the story said. Although Ford reported a 40 percent drop in Expedition SUV sales, its F-series trucks sold very well, with August sales rising by 7 percent."
 
Doesnt appear that lux shoppers are bailing on their cars just yet. Even at $3.69, we pay less than Japan and way less than Europe.
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Re: kyfdx becomes a host and gas prices go up [docnukem] by jjacura
Sep 06, 2005 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: docnukem (Sep 06, 2005 8:56 am)

Honda Accord Hybrid purchase...
Also you may have risked being excommunicated from the LPS forum, and we would miss you
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Re: kyfdx becomes a host and gas prices go up [lexusguy] by jjacura
Sep 06, 2005 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 06, 2005 11:03 am)

"Sales of GM's Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon and Hummer H2 all fell more than 30 percent"
 
Yesterday as I eased out from an intersection the young woman next to me in a HUMMER 2 went to the floor with the excelerator and kept it there...and I'm thinking perhaps gallons per mile not MPG for that rig!
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Re: kyfdx becomes a host and gas prices go up [lexusguy] by ksoman
Sep 06, 2005 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 06, 2005 11:03 am)

I personally feel that atleast some of the E class category owners (that's the E, 5, RL, M, GS, etc.) are only in this category due to the cheap money available through refinancing and if the weekly gas prices pinched them, they would run helter-skelter. Case in point, i've some people in my firm who own some of these cars who i can confidently say couldn't afford to put down 50K on a car if it wasn't for riches from refinancing.... a lot of them and with gas as cheap as it was, they didn't care, but at 3+, suddenly a lot of them are staring at the computer screens wondering about what else to sell to pay for gas, when they should be working....
 
i believe this is atleast a 25% solid block of people in this car market... the LPS market. a lot of us on this forum who live and breathe cars may not be in this 25%, but if this market lost 25% sales, who will be affected the most? for some reason i think not MB or BMW, yes, they'll lose some but lesser than the others or maybe the inifinity and rl will convince people that they offer better milage... i dunno...
 
ksso
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Filled up my A6. . . by markcincinnati
Sep 06, 2005 (2:16 pm)
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. . .and the miles to empty "meter" jumped to 635!
 
Trip from Cincinnati to Pittsburgh AND back, largely interstate, three people, two shelties, full trunk of luggage, ac running all the time and speed NEVER less than 75MPH -- mainly "S" mode.
 
This dude sips gasoline! I kept thinking the gas gauge was broken -- hello, hello, are you ever going to drop?
 
Read Jay Leno's article in Pop Mech -- he (and now I) can't wait for the upcoming diesels!
 
The A6 3.0TDI must be quite spanky. And even more frugal.
 
No hybrids (at this time) need apply.
 
The 3.2 engine in my A6 makes me wonder what could be done with this FSI technology, tho.
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Re: Filled up my A6. . . [markcincinnati] by kdshapiro
Sep 06, 2005 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 06, 2005 2:16 pm)

You had to read Jay Leno to find out about the upcoming diesels? TSK, TSK.
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gas prices go up [docnukem] by rrob
Sep 06, 2005 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: docnukem (Sep 06, 2005 8:56 am)

Indeed, my 1999 Honda Accord 4cyl is the best mileage car in our family (30-32) , but my M45 is within a few mpg of our '02 New Beetle 1.8T (22 vs 25 mpg), and they both beat our '04 Nissan Quest minivan (18 mpg). As my kids are now driving the first two, I guess my LPS is my 'best' economy choice!
 
Now, there's a rationalization
 
rrob
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Re: gas prices go up [rrob] by mexibec
Sep 06, 2005 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: rrob (Sep 06, 2005 3:13 pm)

The latest Consumer Reports states that most of the EPA are so incorrect that a better estimate is to lower the estimated MPG by as much as 30% for city driving... According to Infiniti, the M45 should get 17/23, but the car only shows 16.4 after ~3000 mi of about 75% highway (instead of ~21.5 MPG under that condition). Those sensitive to the gas price can't really rely on those EPA numbers, and should instead simply slow down...

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