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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

#3840 of 10007 Re: % of total August sales [lexusguy] by mariner7 Sep 05, 2005 (3:16 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 04, 2005 6:46 pm) I don't think anybody realistically expects E and 5 to fail in this segment. They're the perennial leaders. No one expected M and GS to suddenly jump in front of the line. You don't turn decades of tradition and prestige on its head. But the Germans got to worry the newcomers will take an increasing slice of the pie, or get a rough equivalence, as happened in the class below.   It's very similar to the full size trucks and SUV's. Titans and Tundras win just by taking increasing pieces of the market. In the segment, the Japanese have almost of chance of eventually being on par with the market leaders. But in the luxury market, I'd say they stand of very good chance.   The scary thing for MB/BMW/Audi, they have only the luxury market. So if they lose a large piece of it, that'd hurt. Whereas Toyota and Nissan just dabble in it for even more profits. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 05, 2005 6:49 am) kdshapiro (Sep 05, 2005 7:04 am) cmybimmergo (Sep 05, 2005 7:43 am)
#3841 of 10007 Re: % of total August sales [mariner7] by lexusguy Sep 05, 2005 (6:49 am)
Replying to: mariner7 (Sep 05, 2005 3:16 am) I just meant hypothetically, a big drop in E sales would hurt MB a lot more than say, the GS would hurt Lexus.   "The scary thing for MB/BMW/Audi, they have only the luxury market."   Thats not really true. DCX has Chrysler, Audi has VW, and BMW is going down market with the 1-series. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Sep 05, 2005 7:04 am)
#3842 of 10007 Re: % of total August sales [lexusguy] by kdshapiro Sep 05, 2005 (7:04 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 05, 2005 6:49 am) "BMW is going down market with the 1-series."   A 1-series, if it ever gets sold here, will not be mistaken for say a Corolla. It is a smaller BMW targeted toward the premium compact market, but still with a generous helping BMW attributes. The diesel version of the 1-series averaged a respectable 50mpg.
#3843 of 10007 topic by pat HOST Sep 05, 2005 (7:42 am)
Let's don't get distracted from the fact that we are talking about Luxury Performance Sedans and not the other vehicles that our topical manufacturers produce ...
#3844 of 10007 Re: % of total August sales [mariner7] by cmybimmergo Sep 05, 2005 (7:43 am)
Replying to: mariner7 (Sep 05, 2005 3:16 am) The scary thing for BMW...they have only the luxury market.   They also have the Mini. It's not a large segment, but I see enough of them.
#3845 of 10007 Re: Sales [kyfdx] by jjacura Sep 05, 2005 (8:21 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 04, 2005 7:38 am) Kyfdx...did you join edmunds as a host recently? Replies to this message: kyfdx (Sep 05, 2005 8:32 am) jjacura (Sep 05, 2005 6:31 pm) pat (Sep 05, 2005 8:41 am) cmybimmergo (Sep 05, 2005 1:25 pm) hpowders (Sep 05, 2005 11:32 am)
#3846 of 10007 Re: Sales [jjacura] by kyfdx HOST Sep 05, 2005 (8:32 am)
Replying to: jjacura (Sep 05, 2005 8:21 am) It certainly appears that I have! Replies to this message: jjacura (Sep 05, 2005 6:31 pm)
#3847 of 10007 Re: Sales [jjacura] by pat HOST Sep 05, 2005 (8:41 am)
Replying to: jjacura (Sep 05, 2005 8:21 am) Kyfdx is our new host of the Prices Paid board - we're glad to have him! Replies to this message: cmybimmergo (Sep 05, 2005 1:25 pm)
#3848 of 10007 Re: Cincinnati as a micro example [markcincinnati] by blckislandguy Sep 05, 2005 (9:53 am)
Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 04, 2005 11:57 am) Mark, I agree completely and also want to add one more point. Multiple dealers selling the same line leads also to sharper pencils, more agressive sales efforts, better marketing, etc. If you are the one , say Jag, dealer in a state you may have an "I've got it, you come get it" mentality.
#3849 of 10007 Re: Sales [jjacura] by hpowders Sep 05, 2005 (11:32 am)
Replying to: jjacura (Sep 05, 2005 8:21 am) Gee. I wonder what gave it away!

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