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Replying to: frisconick (Aug 13, 2005 10:44 am)  Celestial Silver on the street would perhaps meet your approval even more. 
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 13, 2005 9:56 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 13, 2005 2:53 pm) The results of that comparison test lends more credibility to a great car...thanks for sharing that Pat. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=106555 |
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Replying to: jjacura (Aug 14, 2005 1:32 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 14, 2005 2:53 pm) Considering you were in San Remo, surprised to read that you didn't see more Alfa's or Fiats. In Sept I'll be going to Milan and Venice. Going to the Grand Prix race in Milan, which I can't wait to experience (should be better than the one in Indianapolis...ha). I'll have to wear my Honda baseball cap to that one! How did you find the security at the airports overseas? Trying to get geared up for some delays and searches when I am there. Did you fly Alitalia and if yes, how did you find their service? That's what we're taking in Sept. I was in Berlin and Munich last fall, and it's always interesting to see the occasional Chrysler minivan there. I also saw more than a few Jeep Grand Cherokees. But the most striking thing (compared to the US) was to see so many small Audis (A2/A3), Smart cars, and small BMWs. Most with diesel engines, to boot. Also quite a few BMW 5-series and MB E-classes with diesel engines. And, of course, far more manual trannys. I sure wish American drivers discovered the benefits of shifting for themselves.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 11, 2005 12:38 pm) I think you ought to caveat your post with capital, bold IMHO's most of the time, since your experience is fairly unique wrt the 545 and BMWs in general.
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Replying to: greenbelt (Aug 14, 2005 3:40 pm) Go to the forums, Bimmerfest.com and E60.net and you will find HUNDREDS of ecstatic people who drive 545i's and report flawless performance and trouble-free feed-back from the terrific iDrive that a 7 year old can figure out in 5 minutes. I suppose all those folks lexusguy saw in Europe OVERWHELMINGLY driving BMW's also don't know what they are talking about. The 545i is indeed a rocket on wheels. Won't you join me in a toast to the greatest luxury performance sedan in the $60,000 range? The car according to Road & Track "as a pure sports sedan...takes top honors. It remain's the true driver's car, delivering the tightest handling, the most direct feedback and the biggest smiles." Ladies and gentleman, may I present to you the 2005 BMW 545i. Cheers and big smiles. hpowders
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Well, my brother in law is in the market for a new car. He presently is leasing a 2002 GS 300. He likes it a lot. So, naturally, we drove the Lexus GS 300 today first. I have to admit, I was more impressed with the car than I thought I would be. The only thing that didn't do it for me was that tight opening in trunk...very narrow and would be hard to fit a real size suitcase in trunk. Also, no full size spare. I did like the brushed aluminum gauges with the bright white needles. I would like to see a type of MMI like Audi's or I-Drive in a Lexus. They have way too many buttons. Also, kind of weird to see a cassette player in a car. Next, we went to the Infiniti dealer. Well, the salesman approached us as we were walking up to the showroom. A kid ( no more than 23-25) in a t-shirt asking if we needed help. Well, we were comparing apples to apples so we told him we wanted to drive a base M35...no packages other than the base...as it would look the same inside and given it wasn't a Sport model, probably drive the same way too. Well, it does have a nice growl to the engine but that was it. I drove the car. What a jerky acceleration. Yes, it was quick but so are BMW's and they don't drive like this car. And, the whole table in center of dash...I didn't know whether to drive the car or eat my lunch off of it. The wood in this car is the worst looking I have ever seen in any automobile. Even the Q45 has the high gloss polished wood inside. It looks cheap in the M35 and felt like contact paper glued onto plastic. I did like the metal looking interior on Sport model. The whole time I was in this car, I couldn't help but think this car was invented for one thing and one thing only...to compete with BMW's. It seemed they tried to hard to go after Lexus' market. And, I'm sure a lot of would be Lexus drivers may have switched over to Infiniti. But just as I love driving the Audi I lease, I don't think I would want to buy one. Well, this is the same feeling I got in the Infiniti. Great to go ZOOM...but that's it! I couldn't help but notice cheap materials all over this car. Why didn't they put the little buttons to lock the doors outside on the car on all four doors, not just the front doors. Even the little vents on backseat air conditioning are plasticky. On the Audi, all vents have some sort of metal look to them...even if it's not really metal, it looks finished. The Lexus and Audi and many other fine cars have no mouldings screwing up the lines of the car. The M35 felt it necessary to put these on the sides. I know what you're thinking...PROTECTION...get real...those little ugly strips of plastic on side of the car aren't preventing any dings or dents...just looking ugly and dated. The Lexus may not be as quick from a dead stop as the Infiniti, but if I was going to buy one, my money would go to Lexus...they have already proved they have good resale and a good overall product. And, as I drove us home in my 2005 A6 3.2, I couldn't help think to myself that this is the car I'm glad I got!
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 14, 2005 4:54 pm)  and read what our folks at Edmunds are saying about the RL in the 2005 AWD Luxury Sport Sedan Comparison Test. "If there's a more well rounded all-wheel drive luxury sport sedan than the RL, we haven't driven it." Check it out: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=106555
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Replying to: jjacura (Aug 14, 2005 7:21 pm) In truth, nobody would go wrong with purchasing or leasing any of the LPS's being discussed here. If for some reason I couldn't have a 545i and had an RL instead, I'm sure I would like it too. I wouldn't turn down any of these LPS's. I just happen to prefer BMW. |
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