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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

#3607 of 10007 Re: $3.40 [lexusguy] by rats13 Aug 12, 2005 (2:31 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2005 5:00 pm) bzzzzt $4,500 more for an RX440 nice try maybe on paper but not in real life. My dad and my boss both bought one at MSRP plus they had to take the overpriced rim to the tune of about $51k and yes my wifes loaded AWD RX330 stick at I believe $48.5 BUT we paid $42.5 for that car when we actually bought it. so you are back to and 8k difference. As far as the tax credit I'm betting the RX400 doesn't qualify for the full $3k. It doesn't qualify for the carpool lanes here in CA. I understand the point of the RX400 but given it's current supply the extra cost will not be recovered in mileage in a long time if ever.   Maybe the next generation or when production keeps up with demand and we can get the hybrids for close to invoice but right now purchasing an RX400 makes sense from a statement/ecological standpoint but not a cost standpoint.   Heck I bet its probably better to buy an RX330 and cut a check to the Sierra club for $5k.
#3608 of 10007 Re: Consumer Reports [hihomike] by kdshapiro Aug 12, 2005 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: hihomike (Aug 12, 2005 12:26 pm) "When I got my BMW, I was sent a survey with 5 questions on it. When I got my Infiniti, it had 35 questions on it."   That's a good point. I throw away surveys with more than 5 questions. Maybe BMW realizes that.   I also agree Lexus works hard at customer satisfaction, but you are generalizing about all BMW dealers. Mine wants to earn my business, not pretend they are doing me a favor by selling me a car. BMW or not, I would drive away (fast) from any dealer with that attitude.   Interestingly enough I encountered that attitude from a number of car dealers recently. The one that really surprised me with Lexus like customer service though was Cadillac.   The one dealer that I couldn't understand that attitutude coming from though was Honda.
#3609 of 10007 Re: $3.40 [janssen] by frisconick Aug 13, 2005 (10:44 am)
Replying to: janssen (Aug 12, 2005 1:12 pm) LOL   I am not a big fan of the RL exterior, but I saw light blue RL on the street yesterday and thought it was a knock out, it was very elegant looking. Replies to this message: jjacura (Aug 14, 2005 1:25 pm)
#3610 of 10007 Hey people by pat HOST Aug 13, 2005 (2:53 pm)
We're wandering all over the place here. Let's stick with the specific luxury performance sedans that are our subject and leave the dealer and political commentary out, okay?   Have you seen the latest "2005 All-Wheel-Drive Luxury Sport Sedan Comparison Test"? What do you think? Replies to this message: jjacura (Aug 14, 2005 1:55 pm) msu79gt82 (Aug 15, 2005 8:03 am)
#3611 of 10007 European report by lexusguy Aug 13, 2005 (9:56 pm)
Since I just got back from San Remo, Italy, I thought I'd fill everybody in on what the Europeans are driving at the mo. It looked like BMW was in first place in terms of just what I saw on the street, with Audi and MB too close to call for 2nd\3rd. In terms of specific LPS cars, plenty of E's (obviously) but a lot more 5s around here at least than 2005+ A6s. I can only remember seeing a small number of them. Lexus doesnt have much of any presence here (again, obviously), but I did see one or two LS430s, and almost as many RX330s (still 300 here) as X5s, which was surprising. The absolute #1 luxury SUV by a country mile though was the Cayenne, there was one litterally at every street corner. I'm not sure how the IS will do, but the RX seems to finally be gaining at least a small foothold, at least in the Monaco\Italian Rivera area. Replies to this message: jjacura (Aug 14, 2005 1:32 pm) lexusguy (Aug 14, 2005 2:53 pm) cstiles (Aug 14, 2005 3:37 pm) and 1 more...
#3612 of 10007 RL Exterior [frisconick] by jjacura Aug 14, 2005 (1:25 pm)
Replying to: frisconick (Aug 13, 2005 10:44 am) Glad you noticed....I think so too Celestial Silver on the street would perhaps meet your approval even more.
#3613 of 10007 Re: European report [lexusguy] by jjacura Aug 14, 2005 (1:32 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 13, 2005 9:56 pm) Sounds like a great trip! Was there much of an American car presence there? Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 14, 2005 2:53 pm) cstiles (Aug 14, 2005 3:37 pm) lexusguy (Aug 15, 2005 8:42 am)
#3614 of 10007 Re: Hey people [pat] by jjacura Aug 14, 2005 (1:55 pm)
Replying to: pat (Aug 13, 2005 2:53 pm) "Have you seen the latest "2005 All-Wheel-Drive Luxury Sport Sedan Comparison Test"? What do you think?"   The results of that comparison test lends more credibility to a great car...thanks for sharing that Pat.             http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=106555
#3615 of 10007 Re: European report [jjacura] by lexusguy Aug 14, 2005 (2:53 pm)
Replying to: jjacura (Aug 14, 2005 1:32 pm) Yes, it was a very nice vacation overall. American cars were very few and far between. Unlike London, there were almost no Fords or Opels that I can remember. The only American brand I saw was Chrysler - the occasional Crossfire, some T&C minivans, and a 300C wagon, aka Dodge Magnum. Porsche was everywhere though, lots of Boxsters and no less than two 911 Turbos at my hotel. As I said before, you couldn't throw a rock without hitting a Cayenne S. Generally the cars were overwhelmingly German, with just the occasional Lexus, Rover, Peugot\Citroen, or Fiat AG. The most unique vehicle was a lone Infiniti FX35. Replies to this message: cstiles (Aug 14, 2005 3:37 pm) lexusguy (Aug 15, 2005 8:42 am)
#3616 of 10007 Re: European report [lexusguy] by cstiles Aug 14, 2005 (3:37 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 14, 2005 2:53 pm) Welcome back to the mainland.   Considering you were in San Remo, surprised to read that you didn't see more Alfa's or Fiats. In Sept I'll be going to Milan and Venice. Going to the Grand Prix race in Milan, which I can't wait to experience (should be better than the one in Indianapolis...ha). I'll have to wear my Honda baseball cap to that one!   How did you find the security at the airports overseas? Trying to get geared up for some delays and searches when I am there. Did you fly Alitalia and if yes, how did you find their service? That's what we're taking in Sept.   I was in Berlin and Munich last fall, and it's always interesting to see the occasional Chrysler minivan there. I also saw more than a few Jeep Grand Cherokees. But the most striking thing (compared to the US) was to see so many small Audis (A2/A3), Smart cars, and small BMWs. Most with diesel engines, to boot. Also quite a few BMW 5-series and MB E-classes with diesel engines.   And, of course, far more manual trannys. I sure wish American drivers discovered the benefits of shifting for themselves. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 15, 2005 8:42 am)

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