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Replying to: bondguy1 (Aug 11, 2005 4:23 pm) We could also thank ourselves, for if we didn't have as much demand, price would probably lower. I didn't mean to start a political debate. If we would run out of the stuff altogether due to consumption, I would really be hard pressed to place blame on any country, entity or politician. Indeed, to close this portion out -- I believe that at a sustained price average for regular of $3.40 we would be at 98% of the "real price" that gasoline was during the Carter administration. And, I, for one, don't blame him either. Rather my point was to wonder out loud about the future of LPS cars (and cars in general) since often LPS cars lead in the innovation of "stuff" (features, options, technologies, etc.) perhaps to ask if we will be seeing future cars and their propulsion mechanisms coming out first as luxury items (in LPS cars for example). If more demand is made on "oil" by the users of this stuff, well, eventually there will have to be a change (and not a minute before, I'd wager.) I love my A6 w/3.2 V6, for its ability (in THIS HEAT) to sip gas, keep me cool, entertain me with an excellent sound system all whilst I am cruising along at about 80 miles per. Round trip to Columbus from Cincinnati netted an indicated MGP of 26+ (and, shhhh, we were really bookin')! 
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Aug 12, 2005 12:57 pm) "Peak gas and oil" !
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Replying to: janssen (Aug 12, 2005 12:59 pm) 
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Aug 12, 2005 1:02 pm)
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Replying to: janssen (Aug 12, 2005 1:12 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2005 5:00 pm) Maybe the next generation or when production keeps up with demand and we can get the hybrids for close to invoice but right now purchasing an RX400 makes sense from a statement/ecological standpoint but not a cost standpoint. Heck I bet its probably better to buy an RX330 and cut a check to the Sierra club for $5k. |
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Replying to: hihomike (Aug 12, 2005 12:26 pm) That's a good point. I throw away surveys with more than 5 questions. Maybe BMW realizes that. I also agree Lexus works hard at customer satisfaction, but you are generalizing about all BMW dealers. Mine wants to earn my business, not pretend they are doing me a favor by selling me a car. BMW or not, I would drive away (fast) from any dealer with that attitude. Interestingly enough I encountered that attitude from a number of car dealers recently. The one that really surprised me with Lexus like customer service though was Cadillac. The one dealer that I couldn't understand that attitutude coming from though was Honda. |
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Replying to: janssen (Aug 12, 2005 1:12 pm)  I am not a big fan of the RL exterior, but I saw light blue RL on the street yesterday and thought it was a knock out, it was very elegant looking.
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We're wandering all over the place here. Let's stick with the specific luxury performance sedans that are our subject and leave the dealer and political commentary out, okay? Have you seen the latest "2005 All-Wheel-Drive Luxury Sport Sedan Comparison Test"? What do you think?
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Since I just got back from San Remo, Italy, I thought I'd fill everybody in on what the Europeans are driving at the mo. It looked like BMW was in first place in terms of just what I saw on the street, with Audi and MB too close to call for 2nd\3rd. In terms of specific LPS cars, plenty of E's (obviously) but a lot more 5s around here at least than 2005+ A6s. I can only remember seeing a small number of them. Lexus doesnt have much of any presence here (again, obviously), but I did see one or two LS430s, and almost as many RX330s (still 300 here) as X5s, which was surprising. The absolute #1 luxury SUV by a country mile though was the Cayenne, there was one litterally at every street corner. I'm not sure how the IS will do, but the RX seems to finally be gaining at least a small foothold, at least in the Monaco\Italian Rivera area.
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