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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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Re: 325 HP... [kyfdx] by hpowders
Aug 11, 2005 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 11, 2005 12:42 pm)

The fire sale lease I got on the car more than pays for the gas. I imagine the mpg will improve after the break-in period is over. I'm getting 19mpg in mixed driving.
 
The problem is that 80mph with my 325i has effortlessly become 90mph with the 545i.
I'm going to really have to watch it on the interstate.
 
What's really a lot of fun is all the redneck flat-bed truckers who come tearing down an adjacent lane with the sole mission of attempting to pass in front of me, giving it all they have, but you know what? I just give it a little touch on the accelerator and they simply can't do it.
Regards,
The Titanium Silver Streak
 
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Autoweek Comparo: M45 vs. GS430 by senneca01
Aug 11, 2005 (7:49 pm)
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The new issue of Autoweek has a comparison of the M45 vs. GS430, it is their cover-story. The M45 beat the GS430 by a landslide. They thought that the VDIM system on the GS is too obtrusive and the both the brakes and steering are overboosted. They also complained about the transmission not knowing the proper gear to be in at the right times. They said that the GS has a good chassis, but Lexus uses too many electronics with ill effect to try and make a great car.
 
They liked the M45 in almost every respect. They liked the intelligent transmission, acceleration, brakes, handling, rear-active steer, and grip. They basically say that the Infiniti has sportyness built into the car without having to resort to what Lexus does (i.e., to many electronic nanny's).
 
In the last sentence they call the M45 a champion, and say, "Sayonara Lexus!"
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Re: Platform Sharing..... [lexusguy] by bondguy1
Aug 11, 2005 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2005 4:43 pm)

You say 20,000 cars a year...then you say only 10% of these and state 200 cars a year...then you later say only 200 cars a month. Which is it?
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Re: Consumer Reports [hihomike] by cmybimmergo
Aug 11, 2005 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: hihomike (Aug 11, 2005 4:07 am)

for $80,000, you can buy 1/2 a 3 bedroom home.
 
Wow, not where I live. The three bedroom house next door just went for $750,000.
 
The only time I rode in an e60 530, I found the hesitation on acceleration to be very annoying. How's yours?
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Re: Autoweek Comparo: M45 vs. GS430 [senneca01] by hpowders
Aug 12, 2005 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: senneca01 (Aug 11, 2005 7:49 pm)

I have to agree with the thoughts on the GS430. I thought the steering and brakes were both horrible.
The steering was wishy-washy. No effort required. The brakes grabby to the extreme.
The GS300 was actually better. I had no problem with the brakes and steering.
 
Watch out for Infiniti. They are definitely an exciting story.
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Re: Consumer Reports [cmybimmergo] by hihomike
Aug 12, 2005 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: cmybimmergo (Aug 11, 2005 9:09 pm)

No hesitation whatsoever. But I have the 06 530i. I did notice it more in the 05 530i, with the 225hp engine.
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Re: Consumer Reports [janssen] by hihomike
Aug 12, 2005 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: janssen (Aug 11, 2005 12:53 pm)

I believe it's a culture.
 
"So, Mr. Customer, you vant to own a BMW, vundabar! You vill luv this automobile. Oh, you say the Japanese cars are more reliable? Huh, you vant a Japanese car, go buy one. You are obviously not the kind of customer we want as a BMW owner!"
 
The above contrived conversation between a salesman at BMW and a would-be BMW buyer is overstated, perhaps, but that is the impression I have always gotten when I enter a BMW dealership - cavalier, obnoxious, pompous, etc. At one dealer, I had to make an appointment for a demo drive - they weren't giving any the day I was there, they said. I was wearing shorts, unshaven, etc. At an Infiniti, Acura, Lexus dealership, that would not happen, in my opinion. Needless to say, I bought my BMW at another dealership.
 
By the way, I own a 2006 530i AND a 2006 M35 in my household. Both vehicles are outstanding, and no, I'm not obnoxious, cavalier, pompous, just practical.
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Re: $3.40 [lexusguy] by kdshapiro
Aug 12, 2005 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2005 5:00 pm)

A lot of people are missing the point about the 400h.
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Re: Consumer Reports [hihomike] by kdshapiro
Aug 12, 2005 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: hihomike (Aug 12, 2005 4:40 am)

You mean like:
 
"Ahso, our vehicles come as they are, you cannot choose any options"
 
Like the conversation between a mythical salesperson and a person buying an RL. Come back next week for a test drive.
 
There are good dealers and bad dealers across the board.
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Borderline racist.... by kyfdx HOST
Aug 12, 2005 (7:19 am)
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I know that isn't the intent of these messages.. But, you guys are heading down a slippery slope...
 
I suggest we talk about cars...
 
regards,
kyfdx

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