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Secrecy? Naaaahhhhhh. by markcincinnati
Aug 08, 2005 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: mvs1 (Aug 08, 2005 9:12 am)

No secrecy.
 
My bottom line was $53,286 MSRP. The car was discounted from what I can recall from the lease document some 10%+.
 
My up fronts were "essentially" forgiven (no sec dep, just a plate transfer fee from the allroad to the A6 plus the first month's payment, I rolled the tax into the thing here in Ohio they can stick it to you.)
 
My monthly payment, the amount the the check I write is $669.40/36 months 15K miles per year.
 
My final allroad lease payment was also waived.
 
The apples to apples comparison (and I factored in a fudge factor for the improved gas milage of the Audi versus the Infiniti and another estimate for the maint, which is free on the Audi and fee on the Infiniti) that I came up with was that the cost between the two cars was in the Audi's favor about $110 per month.
 
This isn't the prices paid board, but since this was a down to the wire comparison of two cars -- either one of which I would have probably enjoyed (the Audi was my first choice, but not for what was at the time $180 more per month on a lease) -- that were LPS cars, I state this for y'all's dining and dancing pleasure.
 
Recently (here and on other blogs) I have seen that similar deals have been or are still being given. Perhaps the noise I made did help -- and I am pleased with the car (as I knew I would be) and the deal.
 
I wonder, from time to time, what it would be like with the Infinti M35X -- I still think it is a hell of a car. Overall, though, I look forward to getting behind the wheel and pushing the start button every morning.
 
I must be old, cause what I enjoy a lot is Sirius Sat radio and the voice command of all the important stuff -- there are 80+ buttons and knobs and switches for the driver to play with, and voice command makes me spend more time driving and less time paying attention to what button to push next.
 
 
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A little Corvette in every Chevy.. by brandonh961
Aug 08, 2005 (6:05 pm)
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Yes, and you get a lot of Cavalier in every Corvette and every other car in GM's lineup.
 
The Cavalier is no longer a GM product there buddy. Oh and wow you know your Toyotas but did you know that the Altezza had the the same body as an IS300 but the engine is 250 not 300 and oh the left hand steering if you didn't know...
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Re: A little Corvette in every Chevy.. [brandonh961] by nvbanker
Aug 08, 2005 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: brandonh961 (Aug 08, 2005 6:05 pm)

I'm aware that the venerable Cavalier has been replaced with the (almost identical) Cobalt - they're interchangeable IMO.
 
I guess IS250 would sound unsophisticated for a Lexus... I believe they make Altezzas in left or right hand drive, depending on whether they stay in Japan, or are exported to Samoa.....
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Re: Consumer Reports [bjbird2] by chidoro
Aug 09, 2005 (1:51 am)
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Replying to: bjbird2 (Aug 08, 2005 11:52 am)

Even more impressive was that th M35x was not only their top rated sedan, it outscored all of their full-sized premium luxury sedans. There is very little room for that bar to grow under their road test score.
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Re: Consumer Reports [chidoro] by hihomike
Aug 09, 2005 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: chidoro (Aug 09, 2005 1:51 am)

I just read the Consumer Reports "report" on the M35. It was interesting in the aricle that they said "...the surprise of the test is the M35, which is now our top-rated sedan. It even outscores all of our tested full-size premium luxury sedans." I wonder why they were so surprised? Infiniti has been increasing sales each year by 15%+ mainly due to their engines, styling, quality build, handling and luxury. They are not the same company that produced Q45's and I35's for the older crowd who prefer the soft, cushy ride.
 
When I was at the Infiniti dealership last, you don't see the "older" crowd there any more - you see the 18-28 crowd cloistered around the G35 coupe; the Yuppie crowd cloistered around the M35/45; the family oriented crowd cloistered around the QX56 and FX35; and a nice mix crowd cloistered around the G35 sedan.
 
Infiniti has taken on BMW with avengence - sport, handling, performance. Doesn't sound much like Lexus to me, but more like Audi/BMW/Mercedes "fighten" words.
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Re: Consumer Reports [hihomike] by lexusguy
Aug 10, 2005 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: hihomike (Aug 09, 2005 5:37 am)

I guess they figured that when LS was beating Q and ES was beating I by 50,000% or so, its time to stop targeting Lexus and go after the brands that Lexus does not target.
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Lane Departure System tax credit by jrock65
Aug 10, 2005 (5:30 am)
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A little "boost" for the Tech Packages?
 
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/08/09/139883.html
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Re: Consumer Reports [lexusguy] by hihomike
Aug 10, 2005 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2005 4:58 am)

I agree with your assessment, lexusguy. I just saw the reports for July, and Infiniti is up 15.7% in sales overall when compared to one year ago. That increase has to be coming from "conquest" type sales (taking sales away from other makes/models). The G35 Coupe has a 25% market share in the sport/coupe category, which is impressive. Also, the M35/45 has been selling at a phenominal pace according to reports I have seen. And Consumer Reports coming out with "best overall sedan, sport and luxury", it can't hurt them at all.
 
I still love my 530i (2006), but the competition from Infiniti aimed at Audi, Acura, BMW and Mercedes Benz, can only cause BMW to carefully analyze why Consumer Reports didn't even compare the 530 i (or the Mercedes E350) because of worse than expected reliability. In order to maintain their market share, the competition must improve their build quality.
 
I've been lucky so far with my Bimmer, but I'm expecting problems down the road, to be sure, if my car is anything like the average BMW. But I'm willing to accept that fate due to the ride, handling and improved engine performance with the 255 hp version.
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Re: Consumer Reports [hihomike] by purplem46
Aug 10, 2005 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: hihomike (Aug 09, 2005 5:37 am)

Can anyone site the edition # and date of the Consumer Report issue that carries that story on the M35 comparo? Is it online? Can the magazine be picked up at a newstand or just by subscription? thanks.
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Re: Consumer Reports [hihomike] by lovemyclk
Aug 10, 2005 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: hihomike (Aug 10, 2005 6:04 am)

"I've been lucky so far with my Bimmer, but I'm expecting problems down the road, to be sure, if my car is anything like the average BMW. But I'm willing to accept that fate due to the ride, handling and improved engine performance with the 255 hp version."
 
My 2003 530SP has been absolutely flawless in every way (1/03 purchase date). Not so much as a warning light has illuminated! I'm sure your new 530 will provide years of enjoyable motoring. Just drive it the way it was intended to be driven... guessing the new 255HP engine is sweet.
 
I will be hard pressed to let go of this one... even for the new e60. Handling, steering and performance of that sweet 6 would be hard to walk away from. My German buddies tell me that I have their favorite iteration of the 5er (aside from the M5, that is!).

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