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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#3188 of 10348 Re: Took the new 530xi out for a test drive. . . . [rich545]
Aug 01, 2005 (12:10 pm)
I drove the 2005 530i with the standard set up and standard tires; ditto the 2006 530xi also with "standard" everthing. Indeed there is, apparently, no sport option for the xi that lowers the ride and stiffens the springs and increases the damping.
These BMW's were "tight" -- BUT, they also rode softly. I understand the point of view about the Audi and Mercedes (even without the sport set ups) riding more "stiffly" and transmitting more road feel (the good, the bad and the ugly). My Audi has the 18" wheels with 40 series tires -- I EXPECT some additional harshness or stiffness from these tires, and I would expect the 530xi thusly tired would have transmitted more of the "noise" (figuratively and literally) from the road.
Nothing I wrote was a criticism (well, except of the $1200 "comfort" seats, which you would have to pay me to take.)
The 530xi was able to pull off a soft -- but NOT floaty -- ride and except for the limitations imposed by the 50 series, skinny tires, it was well controlled.
I am quite happy with my Audi A6 3.2, and, as I have said, I am sure I would have been happy with the M35X that I had originally ordered. I can now add, with the "swap" options (i.e., can the comfort seats and auto trans and instead get the 18" high performance wheel tire upgrade, sat nav and the sound system upgrade with Sirius) that I think I would enjoy the 530xi (just not with that confining and stark triple black interior, though.)
My wife's Terracotta sport seats are wonderfully comfortable and the interior is a delight to behold -- and this little dude is the BMW that "can't get no respect" in the interior department.
Frankly, the X3 -- with the premium and sport options -- and the contrast that the terracotta leather and black dashboard carries with it -- is far more attractive (to me) than that pitiful black, black, black 530xi I drove.
Give me one of the several other less muted colors that BMW offers (and the selection is pretty impressive) in the interior with some light burch gloss wood trim and perhaps a red, white or green metallic exterior -- and I'll bet the 5 would be a looker.
The inventory of 5's (at Ohio's largest BMW dealer) was overwhelmingly Black, Black metallic or silver. There were a coulple white ones, but otherwise mostly it was black or silver and almost universally with the triple threat black interior.
It's obviously what sells.
Of course my Audi dealer says sales during the last week of July were 5 times better than the first three weeks. I wonder if BMW had the same experience and I wonder if it was from the pressure of the Employee Pricing deals out there?
Probably a lot of STS's should have been sold, don't you think?
#3189 of 10348 Re: status symbols . . . [syswei]
Aug 01, 2005 (12:16 pm)
Maybe kdshapiro is suggesting that if you removed the brand plates from all three, Lexus might suffer the most because you can see the styling cues in the other brands better, but the other stuff (like reliability) cannot be read without a brand plate.
Personally, I might agree with the BMW recognition without the plate (I seem to be able to recognize them from a long way off), but not MB (and that's only because the MB styling just doesn't do much for me--not that it's bad, just not eye-catching). Merc1, on the other hand, can probably smell a MB from over a mile off.
#3191 of 10348 Re: Virtual Beer [docnukem]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Aug 01, 2005 (12:23 pm)
Pour me a tall one!!
#3192 of 10348 Re: Took the new 530xi out for a test drive. . . . [markcincinnati]
Aug 01, 2005 (12:30 pm)
I was actually responding to Hihomike, and didn't think either he or you were criticizing anything. I was just surprised that he found the 530's ride to be softer than other cars in its class because BMW's often get criticized for being too hard. In fact, my father-in-law won't even buy one because of that (he prefers the "cushy" confines of MB better!). I've never driven a 530 in any form (xi, with SP, or without SP) so I wouldn't know how it feels. I just know that my 545 with SP hit bumps pretty damn hard, but as hihomike mentioned it may because of lower-profile wider tires and obviously the SP. It's a dream on the highway, but it can be jarring at times on local streets.
#3193 of 10348 Re: Virtual Beer [kyfdx]
Aug 01, 2005 (12:31 pm)
Sorry, I deleted the original post after reading it...it didn't make as much sense as I initially thought (and of course, I hit the enter button to move to the message field and posted a blank message with "Virtual Beer" as the title, then added the text as an edit, then deleted everything anyway).
Anyway, the gist was just simple curiosity as to whether Mark owed a beer because the Avalon (nor its upscale cousin the GS) did not win the CR sedan comparo (the issue of it not being included not being addressed).
Sorry, my bad.
#3194 of 10348 Re: Took the new 530xi out for a test drive. . . .
Aug 01, 2005 (1:14 pm)
Dude, since when did companies pay their CIO's to write harry potter novels on edmunds?
#3195 of 10348 Bless You, Bangle!
Aug 01, 2005 (1:58 pm)
Took possession of my brand new 545i this afternoon. Those of you who criticize the look of the E60, try seeing one in person!
I couldn't believe how lovely the car actually looks. Based on the photos, I was a bit apprehensive. But when I saw my car for the first time, I was absolutely thrilled and delighted! What the heck was Road & Track talking about?
People on the interstate were changing lanes to get behind me to admire this baby!
Hey the car isn't photogenic. Well neither am I!
Setting up my radio pre-sets took about 3 minutes for 12 stations. The same as the regular way. A piece of cake.
What's all the complaining about with the iDrive? So easy!
After testing the GS430 and the M45, I know I made the right decision.
My dream has come true!
#3196 of 10348 Re: Virtual Beer [docnukem]
Aug 01, 2005 (2:00 pm)
Its kind of amusing that the GS was too much of a "softie" for the race car drivers of Consumer Reports, and yet Edmunds picked the 430 as their numero uno. Generally speaking, I think Edmunds comparison tests were much better a few years ago. Now it seems they completely lack any focus as to how much luxury or how much sport they want, and a car can come in first, or last, completely at the whim of the editor doing the comparison at the time.
#3197 of 10348 Re: Took the new 530xi out for a test drive. . . . [ksoman]
Aug 01, 2005 (2:00 pm)
ksoman says..."Dude, since when did companies pay their CIO's to write harry potter novels on edmunds?"
comment...."ksoman first of all when I see the word "Dude", I may be an old fashioned out of sync codger approaching his mid 60's but to me it shows disrespect. I for one take the time to read Mark's postings and if they run on for a few paragraphs so what. He makes his opinions known and rarely shows disrespect for others in these forums , which is more than can be said for most of us. Give me a break!
And now for Rich545 post #3182 you say---
"I in no way bought my car because of status. I could care less what you or anyone else thinks of me for driving it." "If people think I'm a snob for driving a BMW it's THEIR problem, not mine."
You have in the past commented on the fact that many of your neighbors drive BMW's and describe each one. I pity the poor neighbor guy down the street that drives home in an older model Ford. Does he get the thumbs down sign as he hangs his head in shame driving by?