- #2227 of 10006
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Re: RL Handling [cstiles]
by rich545
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May 16, 2005 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: cstiles (May 16, 2005 1:00 pm)
Yeah, but now you're talking about upgrading other vehicles. The 530 achieved that number without tweaking. Those are the tires it comes with, and the suspension it comes with.
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- #2228 of 10006
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Re: RL Handling [rich545]
by kyfdx HOST
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May 16, 2005 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: rich545 (May 16, 2005 1:26 pm)
Don't get me wrong.. I love the 5-series... But, I think you are answering your own question about handling, when you talk about the 5-series compensating for it's weight with greater power, etc... It has something to compensate for...
Can a 5-series outhandle a 3-series? Obviously... the M5 would do it, even if it had a Singer sewing machine for an engine..
But, a 545i Sport Vs. a 325i Sport? I still stick with the 3...
Handling is hard to quantify... It isn't just about numbers, or we'd all be driving Infinitis and Lexi...
regards,
kyfdx
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- #2229 of 10006
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kyfdx
by lexusguy
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May 16, 2005 (1:42 pm)
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"That didn't make the Alliance a better handling car than a Vette"
Well '80s Vettes werent exactly known for great handling. The '97 C5 sure, but before that, not so much.
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- #2230 of 10006
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Re: kyfdx [lexusguy]
by kyfdx HOST
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May 16, 2005 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 16, 2005 1:42 pm)
Uh.. you got the point, though... right? 
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- #2231 of 10006
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Re: RL Handling [kyfdx]
by rich545
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May 16, 2005 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 16, 2005 1:37 pm)
Right, and the 3 has to "compensate" for it's increased mass to outhandle a Honda Civic by that logic. At least in C&D's test, the 330 SP did not beat the 530 SP. Those cars were both dressed the same way they come from the dealer. Sure, tests can vary without a doubt, but everyone was so sure that a 3 without a doubt can outhandle the 5. Clearly that's not a foregone conculsion. No, we wouldn't all be driving Lexus' and Infiniti's if it was about numbers because their numbers aren't as good (except if you're talking price). If we're talking real world, I did race an M3 coming out of Chicago and it couldn't keep up. We were going about 145 (stupid I know) and though it was straight a lot of the way we did do a fair amount of weaving. Now, maybe I'm a better or crazier driver than he was, but he was certainly trying to keep up (in fact he was the one that pulled up to me wanting to race) and he only had one passenger. I had three. So in the real world his supposed handling advantage did him no good. I agree that handling is hard to quantify, but I'd feel pretty confident racing a 325i SP anyday.
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- #2232 of 10006
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Re: Guessing. . . [marleybarr]
by richcream
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May 16, 2005 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: marleybarr (May 16, 2005 12:57 pm)
".25/mile over 10,000 miles per year.
Is this the "smart money" over Infiniti?"
Only if you drive less than 200 miles per week. 
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- #2233 of 10006
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Re: RL Handling [rich545]
by richcream
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May 16, 2005 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: rich545 (May 16, 2005 1:52 pm)
Was that the first time 3 of your friends handed you a group beatdown?  
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- #2234 of 10006
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kyfdx
by lexusguy
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May 16, 2005 (1:58 pm)
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Yeah I understand what you mean. Handling is a hard thing to determine just by numbers, except maybe if they take the cars to a race track, which isnt usually in the review. Even with the slalom course, there are some cars that do exceptionally well (such as the Acura TL) that otherwise dont handle as well as the best cars in the class.
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- #2235 of 10006
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Re: RL Handling [richcream]
by rich545
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May 16, 2005 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: richcream (May 16, 2005 1:58 pm)
Well, one of them happens to be my wife, and she beats me down everyday. Just kidding! Actually I think she may have even enjoyed it. The M3 driver pulled alongside with testosterone practically dripping from his tailpipe. He was sure he was going to dust me. Too bad for him he left with that tailpipe between his legs.
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- #2236 of 10006
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Re: RL Handling [rich545]
by jjacura
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May 16, 2005 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: rich545 (May 16, 2005 2:08 pm)
If that M3 was red it was probably my son coming up from O'Hare field. He's not used to driving 145MPH and his wife would probably pummel him to the floor! 
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