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Replying to: markcincinnati (May 04, 2005 7:34 pm)
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| I will say... What is really nice about the latest crop of AWD, is the cars default operation is basically RWD, with the fronts only kicking in when needed.. I think this gives better handling and better road feel... I know this is the way the Infiniti and the new 5-series work... I think the Lexus is the same way... Not the case with the Acura, though.... | |
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Replying to: jrock65 (May 03, 2005 11:47 am) I might be a little honda partial, even though I don't own one, but when I saw the RL & M on the floor of the NY auto show last year, I knew already that RL was going to have a miss even though to my eyes the RL & the M look remarkably similar except for the ugly details, which I think are ugly on both cars.... As a current BMW owner, I'm amazed how well BMW is doing on the 5, for better or worse... the name sells, even though I can personally vouch that "ownership experience is closer and closer to hell". And yet, everytime I sit behind the wheel of the bmw, I have this instant smile on my face, that as yet, no other car/make puts on my face... my confused 2 cents... ksso
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Replying to: ksoman (May 05, 2005 7:17 am) My BMW experience (3-series) has been good, so far .... 29K miles... It puts a smile on my face, when my wife lets me drive it... |
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Replying to: nebraskaguy (May 04, 2005 1:59 pm) As somebody who moved from Phoenix to the northeast in the last year odd, i'll say, all it takes to drive a rear wheel drive in the snow is a good set of snow tires. if you can spend 50K on a car, i think you can afford to spend a thousand bux on a good set of winter tires... no? ksso |
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 04, 2005 9:03 pm) The biggest reason for AWD from a FWD perspective is, as you have identified, our current capability to add HP and Torque to engines that can be put in relatively inexpensive cars. The shift from FWD to RWD is often accompanied with an "option" to be AWD, too (Chrysler 300C, Cadillac STS, for example). Pure two wheel drive (front or rear) is probably not destined to be replaced entirely by AWD, but the direction does appear to be AWD being the growth part of the market (and if you add SUV's to the "car" mix, the AWD or 4WD equipped vehicles are growing faster than some of the car manufacturers had predicted). Now with asymmetrical AWD being adopted by Audi -- we have pretty much "validated" the thought that rear-biased AWD will pretty much keep grabbing market share. I keep hearing the Subaru ads on the radio -- they now are touting Subaru symmetrical AWD -- I know the public, or a lot of the public, is completely clueless. "Gee Fred, this company says they've got symmetrical AWD and that one says asymmetrical AWD -- which one of these is better than the other? Beats me Mary, I always thought that asymmetrical means not equal, so I guess that would mean symmetrical is better. Fred, you're so smart. . . ." |
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Replying to: ksoman (May 05, 2005 7:26 am) |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (May 05, 2005 9:46 am) i've actually gotten out of a snow pile with the bmw rwd with snow tires (it's a 3 convertible, so there's no option to get a awd there yet) and failed to get my A6 quattro with all seasons out... comparing apples to apples, because both of them were caught in the same snow pile up in my drive way this year. ksso
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Replying to: ksoman (May 05, 2005 1:21 pm) its just like that with winter tires. summer, you got temperatures from 80s to 100s and you expect the same tires to work with you with a different surface cor and different temperature gradient... i dont think awd has as yet eliminated (reduced yes, but not eliminated) fundamental problem of lack of adhesion.... |
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Replying to: ksoman (May 05, 2005 1:21 pm) |
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