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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#2003 of 10348 Re: Anyone have April sales figures? Update +Audi [kyfdx]
May 04, 2005 (11:03 am)
One of the folks I work with has a friend who has a BMW -- it is a 1999 or 2000 and it looks (and for all practical purposes IS) brand new. He calls it his summer car.
Claims the only thing more dangerous on the (wet, slick, whatever) highway than a BMW is being on foot on the highway.
Several of my friends abandoned their BMW's for FWD, SUV or "pickuptruck" cars because they "were useless" in the moderate winters that we have here in SW Ohio.
The BMW sales rep seemed genuinely pleased to have the X3, X5, 3x and now 5x to sell -- she says the 5x (with its expected $2K upcharge for AWD, plus its new 255HP 3.0L engine) will "hurt" Audi's sales (presumably of the new A6 and of the new A4 with both new 3 and 5 coming to market with AWD, 2 engine choices and stick shift availability).
I imagine she is right.
She pokes "a bit" at me for getting the M35X (but truth be told my BMW sales rep drives a G35X herself -- until, as she says, the lease runs out later this year -- she's been with BMW for about 1+ years).
#2004 of 10348 Re: Anyone have April sales figures? Update +Audi [kyfdx]
May 04, 2005 (11:07 am)
For the record, I would be one of the people who wouldn't buy a BMW if it were only avail in RWD, ditto my wife, ditto my in-laws, ditto, oh well, you get the picture.
#2005 of 10348 Re: Anyone have April sales figures? Update +Audi [markcincinnati]
May 04, 2005 (12:03 pm)
The only URLs you can't post are those to other automotive message boards or to dealerships. If you have source of sales figures that is not a post on another message board repeating something or a place that actually sells cars, feel free to post it.
OTOH, if your source is something like that, I'd be surprised that you took it at face value. If the figures are for real, they exist on another source somewhere.
#2007 of 10348 Re: Anyone have April sales figures? Update +Audi [pat]
May 04, 2005 (12:49 pm)
Here is the source for those Audi sales numbers:
Audi Sales Numbers
#2008 of 10348 A6 4.2 vs M45 vs M35x
May 04, 2005 (1:20 pm)
These are the three I'm down to and I am having a heckuva time making up my mind. I just got back from test driving the M45 Sport and I was very impressed. It's got neck snapping speed, a lot more grunt and much more responsive sterring than my current ride (GS430). I was just really hoping for AWD. I put on some long commutes in the dead of winter, and it's not just the snow that gets you, but the ice patches as well. As to the M35x, it's got fully adequate acceleration--what I did not like was the engine noise- the V6 was a little more intrusive than I'd like. Finally, though I prefer the looks of the A6 it lacks some of the cool technology of the M series (rear-view camera, lane departure warning, front load CD stack). Perhaps the deciding factor should be reliability. I really wonder how much more time I'd be spending at the Audi dealership vs Infiniti....
#2009 of 10348 Re: A6 4.2 vs M45 vs M35x [mikestevens]
May 04, 2005 (1:39 pm)
Money being no object, I'd take the A6 4.2 if it had the sport package or S-Line in a heartbeat.
It gets me what I would want most -- V8, AWD, Sport, nice looks.
My choices were more, pedestrian, if a $50K+ car can ever be thought to be thus -- the A6 3.2 vs the M35X -- plus money was an object. I went with the Infiniti M35X -- if your pocketbook permits the purchase of an A6 4.2 -- don't even worry about the reliability. My recent Audis have been easy to live with.
#2010 of 10348 Re: Anyone have April sales figures? Update +Audi [markcincinnati]
May 04, 2005 (1:59 pm)
>>Several of my friends abandoned their BMW's for FWD, SUV or "pickuptruck" cars because they "were useless" in the moderate winters that we have here in SW Ohio.
A coworker had a 5 series that he got rid of after the first winter here in DC. He only had one way out of his development and it was up a slight hill. If we got even 1/2" of snow, he couldn't drive it. He says he'll never buy another RWD car until he retires to Phoenix.
May 04, 2005 (3:52 pm)
Sheez, RWD is not THAT bad. I wont take my LS out in a snow storm, but with a set of Blizzaks and VSC, it does fine in mild to moderately snowy conditions. If you're trying to drive with the 18 or 19" Z rated rubber bands that many RWD cars come with, then yeah, RWD is worthless.
#2012 of 10348 Re: nebraskaguy [lexusguy]
May 04, 2005 (4:50 pm)
My 3 series did fine with the last couple of brutal winters here in the metropolitan area. The car came with low profile all seasons that did fine. Having said that though, I wish I had AWD.