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Replying to: drtravel (May 03, 2005 8:45 am) 5 = 4,571 E = 3,731 STS = 3,541 GS = 3,198 M = 2,288 RL = 1,304 March 2005 Sales 5 = 3,949 E = 3,608 GS = 3,209 STS = 2,954 M = 2,253 A6 = 1,681 RL = 1,376
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Replying to: drtravel (May 03, 2005 8:45 am) 
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Replying to: jrock65 (May 03, 2005 11:47 am) I also presume STS incentives are doing the trick?
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Replying to: markcincinnati (May 03, 2005 12:38 pm) Are there incentives on the STS? All I've seen is 5.9% financing.
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Replying to: jrock65 (May 03, 2005 11:47 am) 5, E, and STS are selling surprisingly well. Why is 5 selling so well?? (I also think Lincoln LS sales are surprisingly high--jrock, do you have this?). More surprises: STS and GS selling better than M. No surprise: RL coming in last. Acura, however, must be shocked, shocked, especially after C&D included it in the 10 Best Cars in the World shortly after its introduction (but before the M and GS debuted).
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Replying to: bartalk3 (May 03, 2005 2:18 pm) The average buyer has heard about Mercedes and Cadillacs all their life. During the 80's, BMW established such an image of being upwardly mobile that they are just as easily recognizable. I would bet that most people who buy a Jag like the look and the name, but don't care too much about performance (unless they shop for the R versions)--my wife is one; she loves the look of the S and I would have felt guilty not getting one if the rear seat had had more room. With Lexus being (relatively) much newer and Infiniti being just as new but out of the spotlight in recent years (until the G35, then the FX, and now the M). These are just below many people's radar.
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Replying to: bartalk3 (May 03, 2005 2:06 pm) Maybe that is a local incentive. |
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Replying to: docnukem (May 03, 2005 5:33 pm) The M will do fine over time - it will probably increase sales just like the G which started out slowly but has increased in sales every year since. In order for Infiniti to compete with Lexus they need a winning Q45. The LS has been such a fine (and good selling) automobile - it carries the entire Lexus fleet. So even though many believe the G is superior to the ES and the M is superior to the GS - no one believes the Q is superior to the LS. Infiniti needs to win the flagship car competition and enjoy the spillover effect on their other models. Plus they need a catchy slogan. The "relentless pursuit of perfection" or the "ultimate driving machine" are ingrained in many minds here. The GS has a history of starting out strong and then fading away. There was such a pent up demand for the car (it was due last year) that sales will be strong for awhile. There was NO demand for the M so I'm pretty sure Infiniti is happy with their sales so far. Will be interesting to see how these sales figures change over the next year or two. |
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Replying to: bartalk3 (May 03, 2005 2:18 pm) I think it's also more relevant to compare RL sales to the 6-cylinder versions of the M, GS, STS, and 5. That would still likely put the RL in last place (since something like 75% of luxury cars are sold with a 6-cylinder), but this car really doesn't compete with 8 cylinder models. Regardless, RL sales will likely end the model year somewhere between 15,000 and 16,000 sales, which I believe will be below their stated target of 20,000. |
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