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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan


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lpc05 by lexusguy
May 02, 2005 (10:24 am)
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"Which is faster..has more power..my friend and i are arguing about this. I have a Lexus LS400 and he has a Buick Regal with a supercharger. I think his has more power at first, then mine will pull away. We can't really race them though, we live in the city. I thought i would ask people who probably know what they're talking about, because we don't."
 
I was curious about this, so I did the research. As pearl said the Buick will win, at least in a 0-60 test, but not by all that much. You have the advantage in engine power, 290 hp 6000 rpm and 300 ft-lbs 4000 rpm, vs. 240 hp 5200 rpm and 280 ft-lbs 3600 rpm for the Buick. Unfortunately, that difference is offset by 328lbs. of weight in the Lexus.
 
He'll get to 60 about a half tick before you will (6.6 vs. 7.1). On the other hand, he drives a Buick regal thats currently worth about pocket change, and you drive an LS400, so I'd feel pretty good about that If you're that concerned about beating him, trade for a GS400, and you will.
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Re: lpc05 [lexusguy] by maxhonda99
May 02, 2005 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 02, 2005 10:24 am)

Lexusguy,
 
How do you know which LS400 he has??? He could have a 1990-1994 or a 1995 to 1997 model. In which case the Regal supercharged would dust it in every which way possible.
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maxhonda99 by lexusguy
May 02, 2005 (8:12 pm)
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True, I did assume it was a '98+. Could you help us with this question lpc05? What year is your LS?
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Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) by drtravel
May 03, 2005 (8:45 am)
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Curious to see how the Luxury Sports Sedans did last month.
 
Thank you
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) [drtravel] by jrock65
May 03, 2005 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (May 03, 2005 8:45 am)

April 2005 Sales
 
5 = 4,571
E = 3,731
STS = 3,541
GS = 3,198
M = 2,288
RL = 1,304
 
March 2005 Sales
 
5 = 3,949
E = 3,608
GS = 3,209
STS = 2,954
M = 2,253
A6 = 1,681
RL = 1,376
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) [drtravel] by cheerioboy26
May 03, 2005 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (May 03, 2005 8:45 am)

edit: jrock posted as I was typing
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) [jrock65] by markcincinnati
May 03, 2005 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: jrock65 (May 03, 2005 11:47 am)

I presume Audi has not released figures yet?
 
I also presume STS incentives are doing the trick?
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) [markcincinnati] by bartalk3
May 03, 2005 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (May 03, 2005 12:38 pm)

Mark,
 
Are there incentives on the STS? All I've seen is 5.9% financing.
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) [jrock65] by bartalk3
May 03, 2005 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: jrock65 (May 03, 2005 11:47 am)

If someone tried to predict real world sales from comments on this board, they would fail miserably. Big surprises, considering consensus opinion here:
 
5, E, and STS are selling surprisingly well. Why is 5 selling so well??
 
 (I also think Lincoln LS sales are surprisingly high--jrock, do you have this?).
 
More surprises: STS and GS selling better than M.
 
No surprise: RL coming in last. Acura, however, must be shocked, shocked, especially after C&D included it in the 10 Best Cars in the World shortly after its introduction (but before the M and GS debuted).
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? (maybe jrock65) [bartalk3] by docnukem
May 03, 2005 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (May 03, 2005 2:18 pm)

Is anyone really that surprised? If you ask around at most places of work, I would bet that only a small minority subscribe to any auto mag. I would bet that even fewer would know about web sites like Edmunds or the car connec...something.com.
 
The average buyer has heard about Mercedes and Cadillacs all their life. During the 80's, BMW established such an image of being upwardly mobile that they are just as easily recognizable. I would bet that most people who buy a Jag like the look and the name, but don't care too much about performance (unless they shop for the R versions)--my wife is one; she loves the look of the S and I would have felt guilty not getting one if the rear seat had had more room.
 
With Lexus being (relatively) much newer and Infiniti being just as new but out of the spotlight in recent years (until the G35, then the FX, and now the M). These are just below many people's radar.

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