Last post on Nov 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM
You are in the Sedans
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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#10335 of 10348 Re: 528 or 535? [nrwayne]
Apr 30, 2013 (11:51 am)
Best way to see the difference is to go to BMW website. Clicking on "Download Standard/Optional Equipment" tab gives you pdf file with list at the glance. Looks like the major differences are: engine and standard leather (535 yes, 528 no which is nuts), availability of manual transmission (535 yes, 528 no) and availability of extra options on 535 (e.g. optional higher quality leather as part of Individual Composition Package, also Dynamic Handling Pack). 550i adds std Navigation and availability of "Executive Package". You can see it in link below and click the mentioned tab.
#10336 of 10348 Anyone Consider a Jag XF?
May 01, 2013 (1:25 pm)
The Edmunds folks seem to love their long-term XF. They drove it to Alaska and back, IIRC, no issues to report. Arguably, more stylish inside and out than the 5, E or A6. And, now offered with AWD. If I have to grow-up and get a year-rounder in these here Boston parts, right now the XF and A/S5 would be the front runners (don't necessarily need four doors, but want at least four-ish seats).
#10337 of 10348 Re: Anyone Consider a Jag XF? [laurasdada]
May 01, 2013 (2:09 pm)
Absolutely. I've been waiting for the used 5.0s get down into my pricerange. But I don't want to give up my 135, so I'll probably have to wait until that is paid off anyway.
May 01, 2013 (2:12 pm)
I've been working my way through new car options to replace my e350 CDI at the end of the lease. I just stumbled on the A6/7 Audi's with turbo diesels coming out this summer...dealer actually had an a8 diesel in stock. Hmmm!
#10339 of 10348 Re: ELECTRICALLY POWERED STEERING SYSTEMS [abacomike]
May 30, 2013 (2:26 pm)
Regarding your question about electronic steering. I really like it on my new e350.
A conventional hydraulic system wants to provide more boost as engine speed increases and cannot moderate boost with road speed.
An electric steering system provides high assist at low speed and low engine speed, while backing off as road speed is gained. Actually engine speed is no a factor at all since the system is not powered off a crank pulley.
Hope you enjoy your new car.
#10340 of 10348 BMW 528xi, Volvo S80 AWD, Audi A6, Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic
Aug 01, 2013 (11:39 am)
The minister of design and finance decided it was time for me to get a new car, test drove the BMW 528xi, Volvo S80 AWD, Audi A6 and Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic as well as the Passat TDI since I'm coming out of a hybrid and the mpg's on all these depress me. The VW was eliminated by the minister of design so I'm trying to weigh my options.
Audi has the biggest back seat for my teenage sons, it even comes in a diesel but that msrp's higher than the MB
The MB is a 2014 and drives the nicest, has the highest MSRP and OTD price, though our local dealer offered me $1,000 under invoice
The BMW is a turbo 4 cylinder that gets the best mpg (important as my sales job logs 20K miles per year) , local dealer want $1 over invoice but its still $5K less than the MB
The Volvo is the cheapest, has plenty of leg room for the boys. Even though the mpg is worst it runs on regular gas, helping to neutralize operating costs
All have been approved by the minister so looking for any anecdotal experience from owners of each of these models that shopped the others:
Why did you pick your car over the rest of the mid size luxury field?
What was your shopping experience like?
Any lessons learned?
#10341 of 10348 decisions/decisions
Aug 19, 2013 (2:55 pm)
Lease is up on my E350 diesel....great car, but I want something with a little more pep. I've narrowed the field to an Audi A6/7 TDI, Bmw 535d or E550. Yes, the E550 is the performance champ in the group, but it's premium fuel and all internet connectivity requires you to buy the useless Mbrace which just bothers me. I've driven the A7 TDI and it is actually fun..I though I was driving a gas car...responsive, quiet..just great. Haven't driven the BMW yet..it's not out, but reviews tell me it should be equally good. I need to order one of them....but which one?
I should add that I'll probably lease for 36 months and the A6 TDI, 535d and e550 are all within $10 of each other on a lease with no money down....so that doesn't help.
The best deal, btw, is the GS350 which is about $100 less per month, but I just felt no excitement driving one with the f package....it was, to me, a dull car.
any thoughts appreciated.....
#10342 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [james27]
Sep 04, 2013 (7:55 pm)
I fully agree, James27. An additional point in favor of higher mileages between oil and filter changes is that filters actually filter better as they accumulate impurities. Sounds contradictory to most folks, but filters plus a layer of dirt, debris, whatever one calls it, filter out more particles. Limits exists, of course. Too much dirt increases flow resistance to a level that forces the oil to flow through the bypass valve, hence no filtration on that part of the oil flow. Too much time and media deterioration can also increase the risk of filter media failure, creating unwanted, unfiltered, flow channels. But both risks occur at very high mileages.
My commercial tractor has an air filter restriction gauge that tells when to change the filter, but has no similar gauge for the oil filter. I change the latter on an engine hour basis, per the manufacturer's manual. The filter is changed every other oil change, again per the manufacturer.
#10343 of 10348 used 2011/12 BMW 535 Xi vs New 2013 Audi A 6 3.0
Sep 11, 2013 (12:45 pm)
I have two options in front of me:
1. Buy a used 2011/2012 Certified BMW 535 Xi under 25000 miles
2. New Audi 2013 A6 with 3.0 t
There is a difference of 6K between the above model & Used BMW is somehow expensive.
What is the general recomendation on Audi A6 vs BMW 535 Xi ?
Which one has less maintenance charges
In terms of reliability which model is more reliable
Sep 11, 2013 (3:04 pm)
Get he audi...new car warranty and more fun to drive.