Last post on Nov 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM
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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#10331 of 10348 Re: Not to Throw Gasoline . . . [billyperksii]
Apr 23, 2013 (5:43 am)
Mike- I apologize if I sounded abrasive in my previous post but I was commenting on the fact that, I usually test drive the car first then make a deal. Lastly, i go over the car at delivery for any anomolies.
As a matter of fact, my current car (2009 TL SH-AWD) has the electric steering and I find no fault with it.
Honestly, I did not take your previous post a being abrasive at all! I took it as being helpful so as to make sure I checked out the car before I took delivery.
#10332 of 10348 Re: ELECTRICALLY POWERED STEERING SYSTEMS [abacomike]
Apr 23, 2013 (6:56 pm)
I test drove a 2013 with electric steering. Felt very loose at slow speeds and when coming out of the turn, the feedback was awful IMO. It was drawback to the car which otherwise was excellent. The Audi A-6 I felt had a superior feel, ride, and handling (A-6 3.0T Quattro). The Infiniti M37X did too, but thier 7AT is quirky - at leaset in my 2010 G37x it is.
So far in my replacement shopping (replacing a lease ending on a 2010 G37X in August), I've driven the E350 4MATIC, the Audi A-6 3.0T, M37X, and will look at the Cadillac XTS with AWD and the Lincoln MKZ AWD. I am also looking to see what the new Infiniti Q50 "feels" like. Comes out July 1. But I'm looking for a little more room than the G37X I have now.
#10333 of 10348 Re: ELECTRICALLY POWERED STEERING SYSTEMS [almatti]
Apr 26, 2013 (3:52 pm)
"I test drove a 2013 with electric steering. Felt very loose at slow speeds and when coming out of the turn, the feedback was awful IMO. It was drawback to the car which otherwise was excellent."
Well, I drove the new E 350 home today. I did not notice any difference, but I'm no officienado based on my driving habits. The new Collision Prevention Assist is a new standard feature on the car. It uses radar to alert the driver of an impending collision with alarm, seatbelt tightening, and a combination of braking and steering maneuvers to prevent the collision. I hope I don't ever need it.
I did not notice the loose steering you were talking about, but again, I'm no expert in that technology.
Apr 30, 2013 (7:07 am)
I'm planning to get a 2014 and wonder what the differences are between the 528 and 535. I know about the engines, but wonder if the 535 also comes with other equipment not standard or optional on the 528. If it's only what's under the hood, I'd think the 528 might be a better choice if fuel economy is important. Having priced both, however, the differential seems slim. I've been told that the 528 is more than adequately quick, though certainly a step or two behind the 535. Comments, please. Thank you.
#10335 of 10348 Re: 528 or 535? [nrwayne]
Apr 30, 2013 (11:51 am)
Best way to see the difference is to go to BMW website. Clicking on "Download Standard/Optional Equipment" tab gives you pdf file with list at the glance. Looks like the major differences are: engine and standard leather (535 yes, 528 no which is nuts), availability of manual transmission (535 yes, 528 no) and availability of extra options on 535 (e.g. optional higher quality leather as part of Individual Composition Package, also Dynamic Handling Pack). 550i adds std Navigation and availability of "Executive Package". You can see it in link below and click the mentioned tab.
#10336 of 10348 Anyone Consider a Jag XF?
May 01, 2013 (1:25 pm)
The Edmunds folks seem to love their long-term XF. They drove it to Alaska and back, IIRC, no issues to report. Arguably, more stylish inside and out than the 5, E or A6. And, now offered with AWD. If I have to grow-up and get a year-rounder in these here Boston parts, right now the XF and A/S5 would be the front runners (don't necessarily need four doors, but want at least four-ish seats).
#10337 of 10348 Re: Anyone Consider a Jag XF? [laurasdada]
May 01, 2013 (2:09 pm)
Absolutely. I've been waiting for the used 5.0s get down into my pricerange. But I don't want to give up my 135, so I'll probably have to wait until that is paid off anyway.
May 01, 2013 (2:12 pm)
I've been working my way through new car options to replace my e350 CDI at the end of the lease. I just stumbled on the A6/7 Audi's with turbo diesels coming out this summer...dealer actually had an a8 diesel in stock. Hmmm!
#10339 of 10348 Re: ELECTRICALLY POWERED STEERING SYSTEMS [abacomike]
May 30, 2013 (2:26 pm)
Regarding your question about electronic steering. I really like it on my new e350.
A conventional hydraulic system wants to provide more boost as engine speed increases and cannot moderate boost with road speed.
An electric steering system provides high assist at low speed and low engine speed, while backing off as road speed is gained. Actually engine speed is no a factor at all since the system is not powered off a crank pulley.
Hope you enjoy your new car.
#10340 of 10348 BMW 528xi, Volvo S80 AWD, Audi A6, Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic
Aug 01, 2013 (11:39 am)
The minister of design and finance decided it was time for me to get a new car, test drove the BMW 528xi, Volvo S80 AWD, Audi A6 and Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic as well as the Passat TDI since I'm coming out of a hybrid and the mpg's on all these depress me. The VW was eliminated by the minister of design so I'm trying to weigh my options.
Audi has the biggest back seat for my teenage sons, it even comes in a diesel but that msrp's higher than the MB
The MB is a 2014 and drives the nicest, has the highest MSRP and OTD price, though our local dealer offered me $1,000 under invoice
The BMW is a turbo 4 cylinder that gets the best mpg (important as my sales job logs 20K miles per year) , local dealer want $1 over invoice but its still $5K less than the MB
The Volvo is the cheapest, has plenty of leg room for the boys. Even though the mpg is worst it runs on regular gas, helping to neutralize operating costs
All have been approved by the minister so looking for any anecdotal experience from owners of each of these models that shopped the others:
Why did you pick your car over the rest of the mid size luxury field?
What was your shopping experience like?
Any lessons learned?