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#10294 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [kirstie_h]
Mar 14, 2013 (5:56 am)
kirstie...just from my small sample size and experience, aside from free maintenance on BMW, oil changes at the dealer ran about $70/ea. Why? Well, for one, BMWs (as well as Mercedes) require the use of synthetic oil. Other, more traditional cars still use "regular" (and cheaper) oil. That said, the extra costs for oil changes might be offset by the longer recommended oil change intervals.
But, you're right. During the "free" maintenance period for BMW, you really pay nothing except for tires. That should be tallied as part of the cost of owning any of these brands, too.
#10295 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [graphicguy]
Mar 14, 2013 (6:04 am)
oil changes at the dealer ran about $70/ea.
Damn, that's cheap. Even when I called to ask what they would charge for our E30, I was told $100. I haven't even bothered to ask what they would want to do my 135i. It costs me about $85 just to buy the oil and filter from the store.
#10296 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [graphicguy]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Mar 14, 2013 (7:00 am)
Yeah, even our Crossfire has about a $100 oil change.
If a consumer is looking to buy a used vehicle with relatively low maintenance costs, neither BMW nor MB is likely to be a great choice. Buying any luxury marque generally involves higher maintenance and consumable costs (e.g., tires), as you know.
Related to the original question, my point was that the BMW 2-year free maintenance will not be a factor since the vehicles being considered are 2-3 years old. And, for vehicles in that price range, I don't consider a couple hundred bucks per year in maintenance difference to be a significant amount - at least not enough to sway me toward one vehicle over the other.
#10297 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [kirstie_h]
Mar 15, 2013 (5:54 am)
kirstie....Q....I must be WAAAAAY BEHIND THE TIMES. I thought $70 for an oil change was about 2x-3X what it should be.
I know I got coupons from my BMW dealer stating how they're oil changes, brakes, tires, batteries, tune-ups etc were competitively priced. I guess they were right.
Then again, I haven't been to an outside mechanic (other than the dealer) for service in quite some time.
#10298 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [kirstie_h]
Mar 15, 2013 (7:40 am)
What I am starting to hear from people is that since the free maintenance portion will be over, BMW will have smaller problems more frequently and the MB will have fewer problems, but will cost somewhat more when it does. So in the end, it kinda evens out. Of course this is all in general trends.
#10299 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [mad_chicken]
Mar 15, 2013 (12:39 pm)
Most European cars, the Germans in particular, treat their cars much better than the average American does. They believe in pre-emptive maintenance which means they check, service, replace things such that the vehicle retains its high performance capabilities almost as if it were new for as long as you own the vehicle. If you subscribe to that, because it does take a fair amount of time and you may be replacing things before they break, it can get costly. Some of the checks you can do yourself if you're handy, but this may not then reflect on the vehicle maintenance history, so you may end up paying more by a lower resale value. Having a full history of factory trained maintenance can make a difference when it comes time to sell the thing, not counting the fact it is likely to be in better shape. Having never owned a MB, I can't say whether it is more expensive than a BMW, and mine is still fairly new and still under factory warranty (it's also my first BMW), so I can't compare them. I do know that parts costs, should you not be covered under warranty, are quite high. Labor rates, depends somewhat on where you live, but the quantity of hours is often up there as well.
#10300 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [graphicguy]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Mar 15, 2013 (12:59 pm)
Well, $70 would be way excessive for my Ford Escape, but the oil alone for the Crossfire is the majority of the cost. Plus, of course, with "non-standard" vehicles, the filter is likely to be higher.
#10301 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [kirstie_h]
Mar 16, 2013 (6:19 am)
Kirstie.....didn't kow you had a Crossfire. I was really intrerested in those when they first came out. Then MB sold the company to Cerebus and Chrysler quit making them.
#10302 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [graphicguy]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Mar 18, 2013 (8:39 am)
The car belongs to my S.O., and slightly pre-dates me. It's not exactly what I would have chosen, but I will say it's given us zero trouble and it's fun to drive when it's just the two of us. Next 2-seater will be a convertible for sure.