Luxury Performance Sedans

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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan

#10089 of 10338 Re: need some help...please [borno] by markcincinnati

Feb 18, 2010 (2:34 pm)

Replying to: borno (Feb 17, 2010 11:40 pm)
There have been MANY MANY little running changes/improvements to the C6 since it was brought out in 2004 (2005 MY, US).
 
Here's what I think was meant, and it is relevant only to the 2009 and 2010 MY versions.
 
A6 could be had with a 3.0TFSI (Supercharged) 300HP engine coupled to a revised software (faster, smoother, shifts) 6 speed tiptronic.
 
The quattro (TorSen) system, remains active, as opposed to reactive, but the "at rest" torque bias was shifted from 50 50 (front/rear) to 40 60 f/r bias, giving the car a bit less reason to understeer, even though little if anything was done to better balance the weight distribution f/r.
 
Furthermore, the suspension was, what would be a good word?, "tuned" to better work with the newfound power and perhaps even create and enhance the perception of [better, more equal] balance; that is, the suspension components were tuned to better counteract the nose heaviness of the A6, further mitigating the understeering tendancies of the engine being ahead of the front axle. As far as I know nothing substantial was done to actually make the car have better f/r weight distribution.
 
We don't get the real Audi weight balancing improvements currently enjoyed in the A4 until the C7 A6 debuts.
 
You can read the comparison reports from Car and Driver and Motor Trend about the last gasp of the C6 A6 platform -- in these articles, there is certainly some better prose that describes the improvements that the supercharger, new TorSen adaptation and suspension tweaks imbued on an already pretty good performing car.

#10090 of 10338 Re: need some help...please [borno] by lexusguy

Feb 18, 2010 (5:25 pm)

Replying to: borno (Feb 17, 2010 11:40 pm)
can u elaborate on the, 'revised suspension + new quattro system' please.
 
I don't know that much about it, just that the sport suspension has been re-tuned a bit from the old S-line/sport suspension settings. The S6 has its own setup, and I don't think that changed with the '09 restyle.

#10091 of 10338 Re: need some help...please [bruceomega] by lexusguy

Feb 18, 2010 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: bruceomega (Feb 18, 2010 1:30 pm)

Out of curiosity, was wondering what would be needed to be a leap forward?

 
Well, there doesn't seem to be anything amazing that the F10 does that the E60 doesn't do. There's plenty of new technology sure, but I haven't heard that the F10 is somehow amazingly better to drive. It's heavier, and thanks to improved engines its not any slower.
 
On the other hand, the change from the B7 to the B8 A4 was a leap forward, particularly with the S4. The A6 is getting basically the same changes. It'll win easily against the E350, and there's a good chance that it could win against the new 5 as well.

#10092 of 10338 yes by borno

Feb 18, 2010 (11:26 pm)

FINALLY, after a looooong search, I think I found her!
Thanks for all the help!!!
  
'07 Audi S6 with 34K, three year old, certified with audi care, has brand new set of winter snows and rims, white with black interior, with carbon fiber inlays, tech pkg., and warm package(rare, it replaces the glass moonroof with solar panels that operate fans to change the air in the car when its parked.
  
the only options it doesn't have are adaptive cruise(regular cruise will b ok, wont use it much any way), driver side leather dash(nice but oh well), and the silver optioned head liner(this I'd like and may look into), also will need the i pod interface installed(expensive, any ideas?, hear $1k, from one dealer, $2K from another, but i will get it factory oem.
  
Car was sold and serviced buy selling dealer, who also capped my shipping costs at $500. 25 year audi salesman, previous owner trade it and an older porsche for a new S5 cab, my other dream car. Also getting 1.9% from audi for 24 months!
  
Pretty psyched!, will give price details later, may purchase the cpo audi care which covers additional 2 services. Any other ideas?? This is a beast of a car!
  
lexusguy was right, more S6s than 4.2, and only $1-2K more than the '08 4.2!
  
THANK U!

#10093 of 10338 Re: yes [borno] by lexusguy

Feb 19, 2010 (1:14 am)

Replying to: borno (Feb 18, 2010 11:26 pm)
I would suggest not double posting in multiple forums, as it can disrupt the normal flow of conversation.

#10094 of 10338 Beware of AMG Wheels by amd2004

Feb 28, 2010 (8:34 am)

Hi,
 
I bought 2009 E350 and has 3K miles on it. When my wife was driving vehicle, suddenly wheel rim burst and lost air. I checked tire and was not damaged from outside or didn't see any stress where rim was damaged.
 
I believe that this is bad quality of AMG wheel but Dealers are not ready to accept.
 
See video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si2OuQeVbbc
 
Few questions:
1) Why MB always ask you to buy wheel and tire warranty for AMG wheels?
2) I have seen several post where people has described about the chip, crack in the wheel.
3) They always denies for warranty with outside force (including pot holes). How many pot holes in this country on the road and have you face any rim damage by pot holes on another vehicle?
 
I am IT person and this is simple logic that AMG low profile wheel are not designed properly to handle impact of small outside force.
 
We are paying high for vehicle with priority of safety for family members. But if this happens while you drive, your family could get hurt.
 
I have filed complain in NHTSA. I wanted to hear about your opinion or if you have faced this kind of issue in the past.
 
Thanks,
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#10095 of 10338 7 Series/MX45 by linhtwu

Apr 25, 2010 (3:24 pm)

Anyone out there that has owned a BMW 7 series (E38/2001 or older) and now driving an MX45x? I live in Cleveland where we get lots of snow and need to think about a replacement for my 740. My "winter" vehicle" was a lease and recently turned in. Wife wants to go down to two cars so I figure MX45x may fit my needs.
 
Would like to know how the MX45 compares to the 7 series. No pre-owned MX45's in area for sale currently or else I would go test drive one.

#10096 of 10338 Re: 7 Series/MX45 [linhtwu] by lexusguy

Apr 25, 2010 (8:57 pm)

Replying to: linhtwu (Apr 25, 2010 3:24 pm)
Would like to know how the MX45 compares to the 7 series. No pre-owned MX45's in area for sale currently or else I would go test drive one.
 
The M35x is basically the same car just with a bit less power, and those should be easy enough to locate for a test drive. You may also want to consider an A6, or if you want another BMW, a 530/535xi.

#10097 of 10338 Re: 7 Series/MX45 [lexusguy] by linhtwu

Apr 25, 2010 (9:44 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 25, 2010 8:57 pm)
Two main reasons why I am considering the switch. One, need AWD and secondly want something with more reliability. Don't get me wrong, my 7 has been great but it's a different animal when compared to the Japanese brands ( when it comes to reliability). You constantly need to take care of it. Therefore, a switch to another German vehicle whether it be an Audi or another BMW is not in sight.

#10098 of 10338 Re: 7 Series/MX45 [linhtwu] by lexusguy

Apr 26, 2010 (3:58 am)

Replying to: linhtwu (Apr 25, 2010 9:44 pm)
Therefore, a switch to another German vehicle whether it be an Audi or another BMW is not in sight.
 
Understood. Are you buying new or used? The Infiniti M is completely redesigned for this year, and is considerably better than the car it replaces. If you're shopping used, the year to get would be an '08. You may just want to stick with the M35x. There's plenty of power, and the fuel economy is better than the M45x which gets around 14mpg.
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