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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#10023 of 10348 bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35
Jan 26, 2010 (6:30 am)
My 2008 M35 lease is almost up....time to look for a new car. I lease because I never keep a car over 3 years (prefer 2) and the infiniti deals have been so good. Now it's time to find another car.
My choices....The BMW 530, Jaguar XF premium, Cadillac CTS, Mercedes E350 (maybe diesel) or a 2011 M35. My wife has eliminated the Audi. The local Lexus dealer just doesn't deal so I eliminated them and I consider the 350 overpriced....and poor resale on GS350's. After 2 M35's, I'm ready for a change even though it will be the least expensive choice due to loyalty dollars and dealer pricing.
The BMW is low on the list due to, of all things, the fixed seatbelt anchors on the door posts which make it undriveable by my 5' tall wife. The CTS has very short seat bottoms so they lack support of my legs. The Mercedes has less than a stellar service track record and everyone seems to have them around here....so I'm seriously considering a Jaguar XF( probably a premium).
This doesn't seem to be a popular choice...I see few XF's on the road. Am I making a mistake? What am I missing.
I should mention that the car will be used in southwest florida where there are no winding roads or hills.
#10024 of 10348 Re: bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35 [ghstudio]
Jan 26, 2010 (6:51 am)
I would suggest buick lacross but leasing domestics is usually a bad deal. Honda Accord exl is a great lease. MB E class are bad leases. Check out ridewithg.com for info across the board.
#10025 of 10348 Re: bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35 [jayrider]
Jan 26, 2010 (6:56 am)
You'll notice all the cars he mentioned are all luxury and RWD. I doubt a Lacrosse and definitely not an Accord will do for him. Now, ghstudio, seeing as how you've basically eliminated everything except the XF, I see either that or yet another M35 in your future. Probably the M35 considering how nice the upcoming one is.
#10026 of 10348 Re: bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35 [tayl0rd]
Jan 26, 2010 (7:13 am)
A cxl awd lacross has a well appointed interior - leather/wood etc. The accord is not in the luxo class for sure but still nice. My suggestions were related to leasing. The accord is great -- infinity has some decent deals but much of the luxo crowd is bad lease city right now.
#10027 of 10348 Re: bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35 [ghstudio]
Jan 26, 2010 (3:08 pm)
The M37, due in about a month at the dealers, has some nice additions, but gets lower fuel economy and has less headroom, if either of those things are a concern to you. Not sure why your wife excluded the Audi, but if that's the case, you do what you have to. I've been looking at the new BMW GT series. Unfortuneately, for me anyway, it is only available now with the V-8. Now if you want 400hp and a gas guzzler tax, it is a nice ride. The I-6 version is due maybe about when the Infiniti versions show up and gets much better mileage and has sufficient power. The 530 and the E350 just don't have enough headroom for me. The new GT does. If you ever carry passengers, the rear-seat room is in the same league as the BMW 7-series, the seats recline, and you can option it to be very plush.
#10028 of 10348 Re: bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35 [james27]
Jan 27, 2010 (4:48 am)
but gets lower fuel economy and has less headroom - not so according to official press release:
PRESS RELEASE 2011 Infiniti M Sedan
The 2011 Infiniti M will be offered in M37 and M56 model designations when it goes on sale at Infiniti retailers nationwide in spring 2010. The M37 features a refined 3.7-liter V6 engine with increased power and fuel economy (versus the previous generation M35ís 3.5-liter V6).
The M56 also offers more power and better fuel economy from an all-new 5.6-liter V8 (versus the previous generation M45ís 4.5-liter V8). Both the M37 and M56 engines feature Infinitiís advanced VVEL (Variable Valve Event & Lift) system and all models are equipped with a standard 7-speed automatic transmission.
The M56 engine also utilizes Direct Injection Gasolineô (DIG) technology. The M37 and M56 are available in both rear-wheel drive and with Infinitiís Intelligent All-Wheel Drive system.
A special Sport Package, offered on rear-wheel drive models only, offers 4-wheel Active Steer (4WAS), sport-tuned suspension, Sport Brakes and 20-inch wheels and tires.
As for the carís size, it is larger than the outgoing M, measuring roughly half an inch longer at 194.7 inches, 2-inches wider at 72.6 inches.
#10029 of 10348 Re: new blackberry trying to use with my E350 [m4m]
Jan 27, 2010 (1:44 pm)
E350 and Inifiniti M are not that far apart in price once you sit down and negotiate and M is noisier and rides rougher. Looked at both an E was far better buy.
#10030 of 10348 Re: new blackberry trying to use with my E350 [carolinabob]
Jan 27, 2010 (1:56 pm)
If you buy an E350 equipped as nicely as an Infiniti M, you would probably pay over $10,000. more. You can pay over $80 grand for an E class Mercedes.
In addition to that, the M is rated near the top by Consumer Reports, second only to the Lexus LS. The 350 is waaay down the list. Very poor reliability compared to the M. CR puts them both in the same class (luxury sedans).
#10031 of 10348 Re: bmw 5, Mercedes E, Jaguar XF, Cadillac CTS vs M35 [m4m]
Jan 27, 2010 (2:44 pm)
Well, the specs are on their webstie, and while it may have more interior volume, the actual headroom is about 3/4" (39.7 vs 39.1) less in the driver's position http://www.infinitiusa.com/allnewm/index.html?intcmp=2011_m_micro.Promo.Homepage- .Home.P1#//specs-options. The article I read said the real-world mileage was less...we'll see when they actually show up. Their webpage shows 'TBD' for those figures, but people who've actually driven it say less than the outgoing. Maybe with the additional power, they were thrashing it more...we'll see.
#10032 of 10348 Re: new blackberry trying to use with my E350 [carolinabob]
Jan 27, 2010 (3:13 pm)
Just configured a 350 and M on carsdirect
E350 = 51K with P1, leather
M = 41K with tech package
so E is 10K more that is ~ 25% more than M's price of 41K
With M you get engine with more oomph (303 hp vs 268 hp)
Better reliability......drawback you will not have service advisors's number on speed dial
Infact E350 finished last in car and driver 5 car comparision (A6, 5 series, M, Jag XF, and MB E class)..and in the comparision test 5 series and M were OLD MODELS - both are getting revamped this year