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Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Sedan
#23 of 199 thats fine
Apr 11, 2004 (12:38 pm)
I disagree with you. The negotiated price of the Civic LX my Aunt purchased was 14,200. We NEVER mentioned a trade until AFTER agreeing upon a sales price, which is what all the publications tell you to do. When initially asked if there was a trade involved, we replied NO, then AFTER the dealer drew up the sales invoice at 14,200, 2.9%, 2000 gs down, 99 doc fee, tax, title, license... we mentioned that wed like to dispose of the old car, at which point the trade for the security system was completed.
If you choose to factor the trade in the purchase, fine. But since we did them as basically two separate things, I count them as different, since we could have walked away from the dealer (WITHOUT trading in the 1992) with a selling price of $14,200. As you state, if the dealer made up money by us offering the 1992 Civic- given my aunts preferences- that was fine. Anyone would pay more than $1000 for that car is crazy, IMO. Good car, but needed plenty of work at 174,000 miles.
Good luck with your Civic, and happy motoring.
PS- I prefered the Corolla, but she (my aunt) went with the Civic because of the better APR, and her past experience with Honda. The Corolla for 2005 will have stability control and side curtain airbags available, both desirable options, IMO.
#24 of 199 Re thats fine by alpha01
Apr 11, 2004 (6:26 pm)
You did the deal right and you got a great price. I couldn't get a dealer within 200 miles to go any lower than I got it for. I count all fees except state tax and tags/registration as the price paid for the car, so I count DOC fees as part of the price paid, along with any dealer processing fees. I was at about $14,500, if you leave those out. I just hate involving trades to the dealer, because they can't afford to give you what it's worth along with a great price on the car you are buying. Happy Motoring too!
#25 of 199 dennis1
Apr 12, 2004 (12:27 am)
both cars are about even.
if the civic was cheaper id say go with the civic. to me it would be worth $600 more. but thats a very personal call.
if she has no personal preference, i would suggest pushing both dealers hard within the time frame left, before making a final decision.
Apr 13, 2004 (3:21 am)
Quote: /#13 of 25 by dennis1 Apr 09, 2004 (12:33 pm)
Thanks to all.
My daughter is very conservative and doesn't care that much about looks. Being 6'-0" tall, she'd never consider a MINI and the Jetta's are about $3,000 higher.
She's poured over comparisons, checked all the facts and numbers(she's a fimance major), and basically rates both vehicles about even.
The last pricing she received was about $14,800 for the Toyota and $15,400 for the Honda (both equipped with automatics, and cruise so she is comparing apples to apples). These were out the door prices and included all rebates, taxes, destination charges, title, license, etc. I think the quoted prices were very good.
Any other comments or recommendations would be appreciated. She will be buying early May unless some rebates expire before then.
I am 6 foot and MINI is fine, I have a friend who is 6'2" and drives a mini with no problem.
When comparing Honda to Toyota one has to be careful. You mention that you looked at Civic with auto and cruise vs. Toyota with auto and cruise. To get Cruise on a Civic, I think you have to go with LX, while Toyota's ala carte pricing allows you to pick just the items you want. Civic LX offers a/c, power windows, and door locks. While one can get a Corolla with just the two ameneties you spoke about. If your daughter is not planning on carrying passngers all the time, Civic is also available in 2 door version while corolla is not.
Apr 13, 2004 (6:21 am)
LE has A/C, power windows, locks, mirrors standard as well. It is very easy to equip a Civic LX and Corolla LE identically, except for the fact that Honda wont let you choose ABS if you can afford an $18,000 EX.
#28 of 199 Bought Toyota
Apr 19, 2004 (4:33 am)
My daughter ended up buying the Toyota Corolla.
We test drove the Honda Civic at two dealerships and the Toyota Corolla at 3 dealerships. She liked the ride and looks of the Toyota a little better plus the price difference of comparably equipped vehicles was $340.00 less for the Toyota.
She takes delivery May 1 but will be storing the vehicle at my house until May 22 when she graduates college and moves to her new apartment. I will end up going with her when she picks up the car because I'm sure they will try to sell her a maintenance program, rustproofing, fabric protection, extended warranty, etc. and there should be no reason to buy any of these.
Thanks to all for advise and comments.
Apr 19, 2004 (5:04 am)
Congrats on the decision. If your daughter is just graduating college and the car is being paid for in her name- are you aware that Toyota (a nationwide offer, I believe) is offering a $1000 rebate to recent grads with verification? Of course, this wont hold if the car is in your name. I'm sorry I didnt mention this sooner, I didnt realize she was graduating college.
#30 of 199 One more Corolla advantage
Apr 22, 2004 (3:33 am)
I've been shopping this level of car for the past several weeks, looking to replace my 5-speed Accord with an automatic Civic, Corolla, etc.
In considering used vehicles (such as from Hertz), I'd opt for the Corolla because the powertrain portion of the manufacturer's warranty is 2 years / 24,000 miles longer than that from Honda.
It's a bit of an insurance policy for the car's mechanical components when considering used...and new.
#31 of 199 Re: Re alpha01 [bd21 #18]
Apr 22, 2004 (8:12 pm)
On March 30th I bought a civic lx auto coupe for 14k plus ttl--no trade
This was in tempe, az.
We bought a civic ex sedan auto for 16k two weeks latter in Tucson, AZ.
Both of these deals were $1000 below invoice.--maybe more since the ex had wheel locks, trunk tray, and splash guards.
BTW, we normally dont buy cars like we buy groceries, but my wife liked my daughters car so much, we sold her taurus, and bought her a civic.