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Re: Mazda lost some customers! [sir_timbit] by scwmcan
Mar 20, 2008 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: sir_timbit (Mar 19, 2008 4:43 pm)

We got the letter back in January (though we have not been notified that the parts were at out dealership to be installed yet). So Mazda isn't ignoring the problem completely, From what I recall they were notifiyng and installing the fix for people in higher probability areas first (and if what you say is true then it sounds like you are in a higher probability area) and then getting to lower hisk areas after (like our area) I though we were close to the ned of the list though, so not sure why you weren't notified (we have 2 3's BTW and are quite happy with them, though it would have been nice if the 2.0 was available in the sport when we bought them would have liked the better milage possible from that engine). As for the news agaencies I think it is very irresponsible of them to reprt the exact details of how to break into a car (or house, like with the recent bump key reports). They can report that there is a problem without gining the details of the problems to the theives so they can break into your car (or house) and steal whatever they like.
Scott
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Re: Mazda lost some customers! [scwmcan] by sir_timbit
Mar 20, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Mar 20, 2008 7:05 am)

Well, I'm glad some people are getting letters. You should check with your dealership. I think mine already had the part in stock. I booked the appointment only one week earlier.
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Hidden extended warranty on rear panels rust by fibul
May 29, 2008 (8:07 pm)
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Just want to tell you that the Mazda 3 2005 (maybe other years also) has a rust problem on both rear panel and Mazda has an extended warranty to repair it. I had a small accident in January and my rear bumper had to be replaced. The repair was made in March and when I went to get my car back I saw that they had not repaired the chipped paint on the side panel. When I told them they said that it had nothing to do with the accident but with a rust problem with the rear panels and that I would be able to have it fixed for free. When I asked him why he did not tell me that before so they could have fixed it at the same time he told me that Mazda did not want them to tell their customers about it unless they were asked about it! So I have an appointment in September to have it fixed for free.
 
In fact I checked for other rust spots and I have found many... the paint peels off.
 
Hope this helps you!
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Hidden warranty on rust by autonomous
Jun 05, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: fibul (May 29, 2008 8:07 pm)

Thanks for the information. The problem occurs also on the predecessor to the Mazda3, the Protege. Mine was fixed in 2005 just after the warranty expired and I paid $200 for the derusting as part of an agreement with MazdaCanada. Most cars are subject to rust, but these cases of premature rusting should be handled openly by the car manufacturer rather than through hidden warranties.
 
TIP: If you suspect your car is starting to rust prematurely, have it noted on a work order the next time you bring the car into service.
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Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues, join us here! by zoomzoom_gir1
Jun 06, 2008 (8:27 am)
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I am currently dealing with very serious corrosion and blistering paint on my 2004 Mazda3 Sport GT. A more detailed explanation of my specific issues is outlined below.
 
I have heard through responses to my posts at http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=25439 from several other Canadians dealing with the same type of corrosion on their vehicles. In the vast majority of cases, their dealerships gave them the same response as I received, that Mazda Canada could not be held accountable (no "perforation" (i.e. hole through the body)) and therefore no compensation would be offered. To put this into perspective, I received estimates ranging from $1100 to fix just the rusted areas to $1800 to also address the blistering!
 
I am still awaiting the final word from my dealership as to Mazda Canada’s response to my complaint. Following that, I will be sending a registered letter to both Mazda Canada and to my dealership, along with all the pictures of my car (see here: http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a38...Mazda3%20rust/ Password is ZoomZoom).
 
I’d like to compile a list of other Mazda3 owners dealing with a similar situation in order to add weight to my argument that this is a recurring issue with these first generation models. If you would like to get involved in applying pressure to Mazda Canada to take responsibility for what is obviously a manufacturing defect, please sign up here. Or, if you would prefer, send me a PM.
 
If you have any before pictures of the corrosion/blistering, please email them to me! Once I get enough entries, I'll send these to get hardcopies made up, for submission to Mazda Canada.
 
Also note that I'd love to hear from ANY Mazda3 owners who have/had corrosion or blistering similar to what I outlined in my own case. If you had your case dealt with by your dealership under warranty, note that when you sign up. The whole idea is to send Mazda Canada an impressive (i.e. impossible to ignore) list of Mazda3s that have/had premature corrosion. I’ll get the ball rolling.
 
Name: Lynne M. Witty
City/province: Sudbury, Ontario
Year of car: 2004
Model: Mazda3 Sport GT
Color: Winning Blue
Current Mileage: 109 000 km
Corrosion damage: as outlined in this post
 
To give you a bit of background, I took ownership of the brand new car on June 30, 2004, hand wash weekly in summer months, go through a car wash at least once per week in winter months, and had it Krown rustproofed first in October 2004 and yearly since then. Therefore, from an ownership perspective, I have done everything humanly possible to maintain the paint on my car.
 
In 2006 I began to have rusting at the bottom of my rear passenger doors.
I did bring it to the attention of my local Mazda Service Manager (Mid City Mazda, Sudbury ON) and he stated that it was due to rock chips, not covered under the Mazda warranty.
 
Last year I began to notice very serious rusting around both rear wheel wells.
When I dropped the car off last year for other servicing, before my 3 year/80 000 km new car warranty expired, I again mentioned to the Service Manager that I had a considerable amount of rusting and would it be covered under warranty? He said that he would “look into it” but never got back to me. Being a new car owner and naïve about these things, I didn’t think to ensure that he recorded my complaint on the invoice nor did I pursue the matter.
 
Last month I happened to be visiting my sister in Southern Ontario. There one of her friends, who works at a luxury car dealership, looked at the rusting on my car and noted “your paint is blistering all over”. I was shocked and upon closer examination, did find extensive paint blistering.
 
The very next day, Tuesday May 14/2008, I brought my car to my dealership and had the Service Manager come out to look at all the rusting/blistering. His very first question was “what is the mileage?” (108 000 km at the time) He then proceeded to inform me that all the damage was due to rock chips, understandable with that high mileage.
 
If you look closely at the blistering, several areas show zero impact points. Also, I have rust between both rear bumper seams. Therefore, at least that corrosion on my car can NOT be blamed on rock chips and high mileage.
 
Note that I am NOT bashing the Mazda3 or Mazda Canada by pursuing this action. I do love my car in all other respects, with the very notable exception of the faulty paint/body panels. The core purpose of this thread and the list which I will send to Mazda Canada is to let them know that it is a very common issue and that their loyal customers deserve to be compensated for this manufacturing defect.
 
Thank you!
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Re: Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues, join us here! [zoomzoom_gir1] by autonomous
Jun 06, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: zoomzoom_gir1 (Jun 06, 2008 8:27 am)

Considering the amount of money involved, it sounds like you may want to contact the APA (Automobile Protection Association) headed by Phil Edmunston, author of the annual Lemonaid books, to consider a class action suit. The APA have lawyers on staff that can advise you further. You would have to join the APA (approx. C$70) but that's nominal considering the amount involved in settling the problem.
 
p.s. I did not go that route because my problem was fixed relatively cheaply ($200).
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Re: Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues, join us here! [autonomous] by bodble2
Jun 06, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Jun 06, 2008 12:50 pm)

I'm a little late to the party, but is this rust problem confined to only certain model years of the Mazda3, or only in certain regions, such as Eastern Canada where salt is used quite a bit on roads in the winter?
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Re: Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues, join us here! by zoomzoom_gir1
Jun 06, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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I've already contacted the APA and their Montreal office sent my "dossier" (including pictures) to Mazda Canada. We'll see where that goes. Oh, and I did not have to join the APA to get their help. I think you need a membership to benefit from their pricing information. As for a class action suit, the list I'm compiling may end up being instrumental in that pursuit. For now, it is to be sent to Mazda Canada to attempt to get our claims taken seriously and have them offer compensation for the large repair bills....
 
As for the models, my list of 16 owners (to date) is confined to 2004 and 2005 models, Sport GT and Sedan GS/GT. Geographical area is not a factor since people across the country report the same issue, on the same key areas on the cars (rear bumper seams, rear quarter panels, bottom trim of rear passenger doors).
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Re: Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues, join us here! [zoomzoom_gir1] by bodble2
Jun 06, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: zoomzoom_gir1 (Jun 06, 2008 1:18 pm)

Of course one possibility is that the post-2005 models have not had sufficient time to develop the problem. So, your list may expand.
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Re: Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues, join us here! [bodble2] by zoomzoom_gir1
Jun 09, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jun 06, 2008 4:40 pm)

Well that's what I'm thinking! So far have 19 entries from Toronto Mazda3 and 2 from Mazda3 forums. Hopefully people here will join up for this list which I'll be sending to Mazda Canada. The more the better in getting our corrosion issue taken seriously!

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