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Trade in value? by markb3
Mar 09, 2007 (9:57 am)
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Looking at trading my 2004 Mazda3 GS (64,000kms) with Automatic for a 2007 3GS with Auto. Anyone have a suggestion on what the price difference should be.
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Mazda Canada : Revisiting pricing by autonomous
Oct 26, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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With the Canadian - US dollars at par what justifies the significant difference in vehicle pricing? In the case of the Mazdaspeed3 the difference is close to $7500 or roughly 30%. Here is what Mazda Canada told me when I posed that question to them last month.
 
"From: MCI - Customer Relations [mailto:MCIC/Rmazda.ca]
Sent: September 19, 2007 3:03 PM
 
Thank you for your taking the time to write to Mazda Canada Inc. We welcome correspondence from Mazda owners and are pleased to offer clarification when ever possible.
 
Pricing in the U.S. and Canada is different because we are significantly differing markets. The United States has a significantly greater ability for volume purchasing than other smaller markets such as Canada. It is no different than any other retail market. Please understand that Mazda Canada Inc. does not compete with its U.S. counterpart. As such, changes in the Canadian product pricing will likely be driven by the Canadian auto market as a whole rather than currency market fluctuations or other markets.
 
Should the strength of the Canadian currency prove to be long-lasting, we have no doubt that all Canadian manufacturers and distributors, including Mazda Canada Inc., will consider re-visiting their pricing.
 
Regards,
Mazda Canada Inc."
 
p.s. Regarding the lack of competition mentioned, dealerships are forbidden to do so with new vehicles.
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Mazda Canada : Getting the message by autonomous
Nov 06, 2007 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Oct 26, 2007 1:38 pm)

A head of a consumer group is recommending that consumers hold off their purchases of new vehicles until 2008 to send a message to dealers and manufacturers that they have to respond to the rise of Canadian currency. In effect, this would represent a boycott of Canadian dealerships that are not acting responsibly. Canadian prices are well over any threshold of reasonableness in terms of vehicle pricing. We are not discussing differences of 10% here but closer to 30% and more! There is a need for more transparency and honesty in order for consumers to understand how prices are set. Manufacturers and dealers need to realize that they are alienating their client base by not addressing this issue.
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Re: Mazda Canada : Getting the message [autonomous] by groovypippin
Nov 06, 2007 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Nov 06, 2007 11:11 am)

You cannot blame dealers for the price disparity between the US and Canada. It is entirely the manufacturers' responsibility to set MSRP in both countries.
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Re: Mazda Canada : Getting the message [groovypippin] by bodble2
Nov 06, 2007 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: groovypippin (Nov 06, 2007 4:13 pm)

Yes, but the dealers are our only link to the manufacturers since we have to buy thru a dealer, not directly from the manufacturers. So, you could say the dealers and salespeople are "innocent" collateral damage, but so what, they're a bunch of greedy, sleazy bastards anyway.
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Mazda Canada : Getting the message [bodble2] by autonomous
Nov 07, 2007 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 06, 2007 6:26 pm)

collateral damage ... bunch of greedy, sleazy bastards
 
I would not subscribe to either of those views. I think it would be fair to say that both the manufacturers and dealers are players in this environment. As players, they should be pushing up the food chain (i.e. to Mazda HQ) the message they are hearing from the floor: Mazda has to respond meaningfully to consumers questions about Canadian pricing with the major currency change. There are many creative messages that can be delivered if there is the recognition of the importance of retaining their client base.
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Re: Mazda Canada : Revisiting pricing [autonomous] by autonomous
Dec 20, 2007 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Oct 26, 2007 1:38 pm)

Should the strength of the Canadian currency prove to be long-lasting, we have no doubt that all Canadian manufacturers and distributors, including Mazda Canada Inc., will consider re-visiting their pricing. Regards, Mazda Canada Inc."
 
The message is getting through.
 
In a recent issue of the Globe and Mail, Jeremy Cato quotes Don Romano, the head of Mazda Canada on Mazda Canada's response to the price issue.
 
Don Romano is in surprisingly, impressively good spirits for a president who has just authorized the biggest discounting in the history of Mazda Canada. This month, Mazda announced that it is offering zero-per-cent financing for five years on every model in Mazda Canada's lineup. ... Of all the issues and challenges he's faced in that time, nothing quite matches the pricing situation that is the talk of the auto industry and consumers in Canada. The rapid rise in the dollar has cornered auto makers. They have been forced to offer discounts unheard of before and which are unsustainable over the long haul, most executives and analysts argue. "Incentives are driven 100 per cent by consumers' reluctance to buy, based on what they see in U.S. pricing," he says.
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Re: Mazda Canada : Revisiting pricing [autonomous] by autonomous
Dec 20, 2007 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Oct 26, 2007 1:38 pm)

Should the strength of the Canadian currency prove to be long-lasting, we have no doubt that all Canadian manufacturers and distributors, including Mazda Canada Inc., will consider re-visiting their pricing. Regards, Mazda Canada Inc."
 
The message is getting through.
 
In a recent issue of the Globe and Mail, Jeremy Cato quotes Don Romano, the head of Mazda Canada on Mazda Canada's response to the price issue.
Don Romano is in surprisingly, impressively good spirits for a president who has just authorized the biggest discounting in the history of Mazda Canada. This month, Mazda announced that it is offering zero-per-cent financing for five years on every model in Mazda Canada's lineup. ... Of all the issues and challenges he's faced in that time, nothing quite matches the pricing situation that is the talk of the auto industry and consumers in Canada. The rapid rise in the dollar has cornered auto makers. They have been forced to offer discounts unheard of before and which are unsustainable over the long haul, most executives and analysts argue. "Incentives are driven 100 per cent by consumers' reluctance to buy, based on what they see in U.S. pricing," he says.
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Re: Mazda Canada : Revisiting pricing [autonomous] by bodble2
Dec 20, 2007 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Dec 20, 2007 3:22 pm)

That is indeed good news!
 
Of all the mass market brands, I think BMW is one of the few, if not only, manufacturer that is still holding out. They are offering only negligible purchase incentives, at least what they have publicly announced. Perhaps there are bigger factory to dealers rebates that have not been made public --- that I don't know.
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Re: Mazda Canada : Revisiting pricing [autonomous] by ex_tdier
Dec 21, 2007 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Dec 20, 2007 3:22 pm)

Hogwash. The typical consumer would rather see the sticker price lowered and additional rebates offered. Sure, 0% financing is definitely a plus but our interest rates have been very good (low) for some time now. It's all bunk that they're offering this financing due to the higher Canadian dollar. I got my 5 year financing 3 years ago 3%.
 
What this translates to is the dealers will not be budging much from the MSRP. Just like what Toyota is doing. Don't kid yourself and believe into their propoganda and start thinking they're giving you a deal. It's still a heckuva lot cheaper to buy in the US.

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