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#9800 of 10942 Re: Spotted... [lemko]
by fintail
Nov 29, 2012 (8:04 pm)
Hyunkia is so desperate to be German, they haven't just hired a German designer, they are now designing cars by osmosis
#9801 of 10942 Re: Spotted... [lemko]
by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2012 (7:24 am)
Sorento is a Kia, actually. Hyundai has the Santa Fe (and SF Sport).
Kia just updated the powertrains, but it only got a face lift. Now the DI 4 banger is standard and the 3.3l DI V6 is optional.
The Benz has a lot more mass but I bet both protected their passengers rather well.
As for styling, Sorento reminds me of an MDX without any of the extraneous "styling". Not sure but I think it was designed before Schreyer's influence came in to play, yet it's aged well.
Can't really compare vehicles with such different pricing but Sorento does more than 3x the sales volume of the ML, and that was before the powertrain upgrades.
#9802 of 10942 Ford Escape SEL EcoBoost
by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2012 (7:26 am)
Silver, this AM.
These seem smaller than I expected. Maybe it's the roofline.
#9803 of 10942 Re: Spotted... [berri]
by lemko
Nov 30, 2012 (8:08 am)
I'd say the M-Class came out ahead though both vehicles were a wreck.
#9804 of 10942 Re: Spotted... [lemko]
by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2012 (8:13 am)
Sorento 5 star crash test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfA0DYWoqvw
Passenger cell is amazingly intact.
ML in the euro NCAP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VLcza8aDr0
You see some more deformation in the body (behind rear door) but to be fair this test is offset and performed at slightly higher speed.
But as mentioned earlier the ML has more mass and that's likely the biggest factor at play, that and the angle of the collision.
Hopefully both parties walked away from the crash. Mercedes does engineer its SUVs for bumper height compatibility.
#9806 of 10942 Re: Spotted... [ateixeira]
by fintail
Nov 30, 2012 (8:34 am)
Can't really compare them, but I will compare them anyway...LOL
Accord does more than 3x sales of the S65, and that was before the powetrain upgrades
#9807 of 10942 Re: New Concepts at LA [ateixeira]
by fintail
Nov 30, 2012 (8:36 am)
Well, to be fair, the ridiculous SUV thing looks like a plastic shell on wheels - just one step up from a cgi rendering. It's not an actual car. The Exner-designed Alien face is closer to a car. So, one looks like a cross between an old Durango and the Ford Bronco concept injected with fat, the other looks like a 61 Plymouth and a movie monster had a child. Hard to choose when both are bad designs.
#9808 of 10942 Chevy Caprice "Detective"
by robr2
Nov 30, 2012 (8:43 am)
Spotted one about an hour ago cruising down my street. My local PD has on Caprice PPV in the fleet. I wonder if this detective unit belongs to my town.
I'll have to ask my neighbor the DARE officer. He drives a lifted Jeep Cherokee in black and white with DARE logos.
#9809 of 10942 Re: Spotted... [fintail]
by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2012 (8:43 am)
Point remains, the Sorento has been a sustained hit.
Doesn't matter how we spin it.