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#9795 of 10921 ATS 3.6 by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (9:46 am)

In a nice granite metallic color, very sharp.
 
I gotta say, the Audi style LED lights look better on a squared off car like this one than they do even on Audis.

#9796 of 10921 Re: Help... [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST

Nov 29, 2012 (10:48 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 9:25 am)
Unfortunately the C Max is way below my expectations for real-world MPG
 
My wife noticed a bunch of reports like that doing a net search on the C-Max last night. She was especially bummed that some reviewer couldn't get better mileage even using hypermiling techniques.
 
So the bank account will be solvent for a while longer - thank you Ford.

#9797 of 10921 Spotted... by lemko

Nov 29, 2012 (11:32 am)

Hyundai Sorrento and a Mercedes M-Class in a collision at Oxford Avenue and Tyson in NE Philly.

#9798 of 10921 Civic by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (12:43 pm)

Spotted on CR's test track:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU7irtnhjss&feature=plcp
 
Honda seemed to address their primary gripes.

#9799 of 10921 Re: Spotted... [lemko] by berri

Nov 29, 2012 (6:32 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Nov 29, 2012 11:32 am)
Lemko, Who won?

#9800 of 10921 Re: Spotted... [lemko] by fintail

Nov 29, 2012 (8:04 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Nov 29, 2012 11:32 am)
Hyunkia is so desperate to be German, they haven't just hired a German designer, they are now designing cars by osmosis

#9801 of 10921 Re: Spotted... [lemko] by ateixeira

Nov 30, 2012 (7:24 am)

Replying to: lemko (Nov 29, 2012 11:32 am)
Sorento is a Kia, actually. Hyundai has the Santa Fe (and SF Sport).
 
Kia just updated the powertrains, but it only got a face lift. Now the DI 4 banger is standard and the 3.3l DI V6 is optional.
 
The Benz has a lot more mass but I bet both protected their passengers rather well.
 
As for styling, Sorento reminds me of an MDX without any of the extraneous "styling". Not sure but I think it was designed before Schreyer's influence came in to play, yet it's aged well.
 
Can't really compare vehicles with such different pricing but Sorento does more than 3x the sales volume of the ML, and that was before the powertrain upgrades.

#9802 of 10921 Ford Escape SEL EcoBoost by ateixeira

Nov 30, 2012 (7:26 am)

Silver, this AM.
 
These seem smaller than I expected. Maybe it's the roofline.

#9803 of 10921 Re: Spotted... [berri] by lemko

Nov 30, 2012 (8:08 am)

Replying to: berri (Nov 29, 2012 6:32 pm)
I'd say the M-Class came out ahead though both vehicles were a wreck.

#9804 of 10921 Re: Spotted... [lemko] by ateixeira

Nov 30, 2012 (8:13 am)

Replying to: lemko (Nov 30, 2012 8:08 am)
Sorento 5 star crash test:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfA0DYWoqvw
 
Passenger cell is amazingly intact.
 
ML in the euro NCAP:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VLcza8aDr0
 
You see some more deformation in the body (behind rear door) but to be fair this test is offset and performed at slightly higher speed.
 
But as mentioned earlier the ML has more mass and that's likely the biggest factor at play, that and the angle of the collision.
 
Hopefully both parties walked away from the crash. Mercedes does engineer its SUVs for bumper height compatibility.

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