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. by fintail
Jun 24, 2009 (5:42 pm)
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I have seen several Insights over the past couple days. One was doing duty as some kind of delivery vehicle for a HVAC company.
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Re: . [fintail] by ghulet
Jun 24, 2009 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 24, 2009 9:08 am)

I agree totally about the 6, also about the Mazda3....both have become a bit garish (as has become the norm stylistically for MOST cars lately, IMO). I'm a big fan of low-sill, high roofline cars, too many newer designs feel claustrophobic to me.
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Re: Electric Mini [lemko] by qbrozen
Jun 25, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 24, 2009 11:20 am)

hmmm... may have to go on twitter and twit that link.
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Re: . [ghulet] by fintail
Jun 25, 2009 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jun 24, 2009 10:55 pm)

I don't like the "face" on the new 3...really too dopey and cutesy for me to tolerate.
 
I think dumb styling cues (like aggressive headlights) ar an admission that designers can't do anything else.
 
The tank-window look is about safety...not actual safety, but the feeling of safety and isolation. I think the sheeple value that in these times. Even MB, which has a history of tall-windowed cars, has shortened them up a bit.
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Re: . [fintail] by ateixeira
Jun 25, 2009 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 25, 2009 8:09 am)

I think the 300C popularized the trend. I hate it - give me a big greenhouse any day.
 
I actually measured the rear window on the soft and hard top Miatas to see which offered better visibility. The hard top does - mostly because the glass is closer to your eyes.
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Re: . [fintail] by ghulet
Jun 25, 2009 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 25, 2009 8:09 am)

I think 'safety and isolation' are nice when you're at home, or maybe as a vehicle passenger, but while driving, sure, I want safety but definitely NOT isolation, at least not visually. Gimme a fishbowl....OK, maybe not of Pacer proportions but I like windows drivers can see out of.....one of the things I liked best about the old SAAB 900 hatch. The super-high trunk and slit windows are bad.
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saw (not the car, but the ad) by ghulet
Jun 25, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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.....for the new E-class....I don't mind the front fascia one bit, though it is a bit Asian-derivative (can I say that?), but the taillights look like those of a late-90s Infiniti Q45, very un-Mercedes like. Ick.
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Re: . [ateixeira] by fintail
Jun 25, 2009 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 25, 2009 9:30 am)

I think the hardtop model looks better too.
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Re: . [ghulet] by fintail
Jun 25, 2009 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jun 25, 2009 4:56 pm)

My fintail is like that...thin pillars and wraparound glass...its amazingly easy to park and drive in tight spots.
 
It seems, especially in these troubled days, the masses do want isolation - most of the popular small SUVs that somehow make their drivers feel safe aren't vehicles with the most glass area, either. People want to feel like they are in a room...and their driving often reflects it.
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Re: saw (not the car, but the ad) [ghulet] by fintail
Jun 25, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jun 25, 2009 4:58 pm)

I agree with the rear end - it is VERY Asian derivative. It reminds me of the Lexus IS, myself.
 
Lexus used to copy MB pretty much line for line...now something has reversed. Hopefully this new E can have some Asian reliability to match its rear styling. I'm taking a trip to Germany this fall and have already booked a new style E (350CDi) as a rental...hopefully that's what I get, unless they want to upgrade me.

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