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#10261 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [ateixeira]
Feb 08, 2013 (10:31 am)
Looks like C&D hasn't compared them yet, I imagine that's coming.
Detroit Free Press (as pro-Domestic as they get) complained about noise on the C-Max also:
Both out of my target price range for now, low 30s for Ford and mid 30s for the V loaded up. I don't think Ford's moonroof is the panoramic kind, plus the fam hated the back seat (and they're right about that).
Too bad, I prefer the shorter overall length and is has a bigger gas tank for great range.
Ted Britt Ford is advertising $4000 off, so a loaded $32k one would be $28k. Definitely better priced.
#10262 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [fintail]
Feb 08, 2013 (10:51 am)
Oh, saw a "sport" variant new Santa Fe.
No sure how it is in the states but here in Canada all of the current Santa Fes are called Sport. When the longer wheelbase 7 seater comes out it will be called just a Santa Fe. The Sport badge is meant to indicate it's a shorty 5 seater.
They're actually very nice cars, and fully loaded they top out at $40k, about $3k more than a loaded Tucson here. I think it's well worth the extra 3 grand over a Tucson but if I were in the market for a SUV I'd have a hard time justifying $40k for a Hyundai SUV even though it's absolutely loaded.
#10263 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [boomchek]
Feb 08, 2013 (11:21 am)
They up-sized it, seems more like a Ford Edge competitor now, vs. the old one competing with the Ford Escape.
#10264 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [ateixeira]
Feb 08, 2013 (11:29 am)
The old one was an odd size. Since most people compared them to Hondas too, it was sized in between a CRV and a Pilot.
#10265 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [boomchek]
Feb 08, 2013 (11:30 am)
Wasn't there a (tiny) 3rd row option?
Kinda silly to see them on such smallish crossovers. At least they came to their senses and only the LWB model seats 7 now.
#10266 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [ateixeira]
Feb 08, 2013 (11:32 am)
In Canada they offered the 3rd row only in 2008 iirc. Then it got discontinued.
They'll offer it on the longer SF now because the Veracruz is discontinued and I guess it's cheaper to make an extended SF rather than a completely new larger model.
#10267 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [boomchek]
Feb 08, 2013 (11:53 am)
Yeah, the Veracruz is being phased out. It was rather invisible anyway.
I sat in one a while back and it was really comfortable, but didn't stand out and the powertrain was dated. The LWB Sante Fe is getting a DI V6 and modern trans.
#10268 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [boomchek]
Feb 08, 2013 (12:13 pm)
That's how it works here too, bigger one isn't the sport. Haven't seen one of those yet, or maybe have and ignored it.
Soon these things will need side and front view cameras, too. And you know how I think, for 40K I'd rather buy a highline model with CPO or aftermarket warranty, and enjoy it.
#10269 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [fintail]
Feb 08, 2013 (12:19 pm)
Yeah well here for $40k you'll get a 4 year old X5 or ML, a new loaded VW Tiguan (they're very steeply priced) or a 2-3 year old bland Lexus RX.
What I like about the top Santa Fe is that it has a lot of premium features like rear sunshades built into the doors, rear heated seats, front cooled and heated seats, nav, backup camera, front and back parking sensors, pano roof, keyless go, driver selectable steering etc.... I might have missed a few. I don't mean to sound like a brochure but I am impressed with the level of equipment in these. But, and it's a big but, the 2.0L T although producing 280-something HP, I don't think it's as torquey or suitable for towing as the old V6 was, even though most people never towed anything.
#10270 of 10942 Re: Spottings... [boomchek]
Feb 08, 2013 (12:28 pm)
That RX is probably what the average buyer of one really wants, esp if they are a certain gender.
I built my own Santa Fe Sport - loaded was 35K, which is probably quite a value - although the US site didn't mention the shades, steering, sensors, etc. I too wonder about that displacement for something that size, it'll be working pretty hard even if it has raw hp.