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Jan 17, 2013 (9:48 am)
Avalon was up 66.3% in December.
I prefer the Fusion's inverted version of that grille, but it's not that bad.
It's certainly not X6/Panamera/Juke/Odyssey ugly, not even close.
#10081 of 11398 Re: . [ateixeira]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:02 am)
It was up because nobody (but Enterprise Holdings) was buying the aging soon to be replaced model last year. See Lexus GS.
I can actually deal with the Odyssey most out of that list, for some reason. It's a van, so it can get away with some ugly/weird more than something with sporty pretenses.
#10082 of 11398 Re: . [steve_]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:05 am)
I don't know if that explains the ugly dual grille, but it might explain some of the dopey anime styling out there. A tough generation to catch in the west, seeing as for the most part, they are worse off than their boomer predecessors.
No doubt wooing well-connected Chinese embezzlers and similar coddled crowds will be profitable.
#10083 of 11398 Re: . [fintail]
Jan 17, 2013 (12:28 pm)
Looks are definitely a personal thing. But I saw a new Avalon up close a few weeks ago while getting an oil change. To me at least, it looked better than the pictures appeared. I didn't find it gorgeous, but it wasn't outright ugly either. It also gives a buyer a lot for the money, so I can understand it's initial success.
#10084 of 11398 Re: . [berri]
Jan 17, 2013 (2:16 pm)
It's perfectly inoffensive and pleasant enough, so long as you don't look at the front below the windshield
#10085 of 11398 Re: . [fintail]
Jan 17, 2013 (2:20 pm)
In all fairness, the big mouth bass look seems to becoming the standard front end on many new vehicles. As I said before, cars are being influenced by designer craziness like in 1958!
Jan 18, 2013 (7:32 am)
Generally I haven't liked that large mouth bass look - Audi, then the EVO, then VW (strange), then seemingly everyone.
The market seems to like it, though.
Never poll enthusiasts to find out what car would sell. If they asked us, you'd build a diesel-only station wagon that only came with a manual transmission. Then they would proceed to sell 2 of them, to you and me.
Jan 18, 2013 (7:33 am)
First saw an Altima, and at first I thought it was a Maxima. Good job with the family resemblance, IMHO.
Then a saw a new Sentra, first out on the roads, and it fits in too. It does look like a car from a higher price class.
Nissan has done well with its new sedans, I think.
#10088 of 11398 Re: . [berri]
Jan 18, 2013 (7:51 am)
At least MB and BMW haven't really done it yet, I guess.
Just more to prove how designers are copycat sycophants, maybe not unlike 1958 when the solution for almost everyone was simply to add gingerbread.
#10089 of 11398 Re: Altima, Sentra [ateixeira]
Jan 18, 2013 (7:52 am)
The new Accord and Altima both look more expensive than they are - and look a notch fancier than Camry, too.
Sentra had to be an improvement, old one was a fun combination of ancient and cheap.