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#65 of 2917 This is Lincoln's ES330 by eaton53 May 14, 2004 (8:11 pm)
I showed this car to my wife and she loved it. She likes "traditional" luxury cars and FWD... she doesn't care for RWD and snow.   Cadillac's jumping out of the FWD luxury biz... she's got an SLS, says DeVille is too big, ES330 is too ugly and Acuras are too bland. There aren't many others.   IMO, there's a big market for something like this, if it's executed properly.
#66 of 2917 by nvbanker May 15, 2004 (9:25 am)
Hope you're right, so does Bill.
#67 of 2917 eaton53, by buckwheat May 15, 2004 (5:56 pm)
you're wife will love this car if it is just like the one that was on display at the NY auto show, beautiful all white upholstery, I'm sure it will be low maintenance if you don't have kids or allow anyone in as a passenger just leave the drivers seat open and hermetically seal off the rest
#68 of 2917 No kids by eaton53 May 15, 2004 (9:08 pm)
And her '94 SLS has light tan leather, which is very clean.... so, no problem.   She wants a smaller, more economical car, but doesn't want a harsh ride or to give up any of the luxury (wood, leather, etc.) she's used to. And FWD is a plus, not a minus for her. It has to be good looking, too... nothing ugly or bland will do.   The Jag X-type was the probably the closest thing to the car I just described... just a bit too pricey with the unwanted complexity of AWD.
#69 of 2917 by buckwheat May 16, 2004 (9:23 am)
From what I have read the Jaguar "X" dimensions will be quite close to the Zephyr. The Zephyr with about 107.4" wheelbase and 71" wide will be about 3.8" shorter in wheelbase and 3.2" narrower than the 94 Caddy. As far as the final price (?) it should be less than the Jaguar X with AWD and the 227hp V6 5 speed auto-premium fuel model but not far off from the 192hp V6. I believe the real guide will be the low end of the Lincoln LS V6, Lincoln's least expensive car right now, which starts at $32,265 even though it is rear wheel drive and dimensionally larger. How much less the Zephyr will tap out at (?). Competition is Acura TL, Lexus ES300, Infiniti G35, and Cadillac CTS. The average price of these cars should also be considered for averaging only because each brings to the table many variants. The initial Zephyr FWD will have a 6 speed auto 3.0 V6.. While I mentioned white upholstery it will actually be cream colored, but when I saw it, it looked quite white, the dash will also have a light colored blond wood. The combination I thought was attractive, practical (?). The Zephyr borrows its name from the first affordably priced Lincoln ever built in 1936. Affordability, will history repeat.
#70 of 2917 I hope by eaton53 May 16, 2004 (10:21 am)
The Lincoln 3.0 will cost less than the Jag 2.5, which gets very pricey very quickly when optioned.   Also hope the standard equipment level will be higher, too.... and that they've learned from the Aviator - price aggressively from the start instead of overpricing it, having cars languishing on the lots and having to rebate the heck out of it. Start this thing in the high $20K's.
#71 of 2917 by ANT14 May 16, 2004 (2:44 pm)
The Zephyr and X-type will follow different missions, and really only be "entry level offerings" for each brand. The X-type will drop it's Mondeo platform, in favor of a RWD S-type based platform.   The Zephyr will seperate itself offering FWD or AWD drivetrain.
#72 of 2917 by buckwheat May 16, 2004 (5:45 pm)
To my knowledge there is no announced build date for the Zephyr and no announced date for AWD implementation. It is contemplated but not just yet. As for Jaguar, the "X" type goes to RWD on a derivative of the current "S" type platform and the "F" type is resurrected using this same platform. Speculation has it the "X" will have a model similar to the Infiniti G35 RWD with AWD. The "S" type will be using a new lightweight aluminum structure derived from the "XJ", new trannies etc. but none of this happens for a couple of model years with 2006 targeted. Back to the Zephyr.
#73 of 2917 by ANT14 May 16, 2004 (5:54 pm)
Yep that is correct.
#74 of 2917 by jrock65 May 19, 2004 (9:26 pm)
I like what I see. It'll probably take some sales away from the ES330, TL, CTS, and the Chrysler 300.

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