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#61 of 2865 by ANT14 May 12, 2004 (6:19 pm)
I believe you ment to say the Lexus GS, being RWD, since the Es330 is FWD. But Ford isn't targeting this against the G35, 330i, etc. It's targeting the Es330, not just in driveline configuration, but the pricepoint and leaning it towards luxury over performance.   Initally it'll be FWD, but AWD will be available soon after. As well as the Duratec 3.5L V6 for those seeking more performance.   I agree about FWD, after you hit 240+HP, FWD becomes a struggle due to it's torque steer and only something that RWD or AWD can alliviate.
#62 of 2865 by revdrluv May 12, 2004 (8:35 pm)
I don't think you read my post that you quoted very throughly exalteddragon1. I never said anything about a car getting better fuel economy in Japan over the US.   What I was saying is that our gas is cheaper, our car taxes are cheaper, our cars are ACTUALLY cheaper... and that's part of the reason we buy Maximas and people in Japan don't.
#63 of 2865 what? by exalteddragon1 May 13, 2004 (6:46 pm)
Our taxes are cheaper b/c big wigs like Ford and GM pay heavy corporate taxes. If those two companies die, the govt will turn its finger on you, and you'll have to sell your Maxima.
#64 of 2865 "what?" is right... by revdrluv May 13, 2004 (10:06 pm)
Um... yeah. So go buy a Zephyr everyone!
#65 of 2865 This is Lincoln's ES330 by eaton53 May 14, 2004 (7:11 pm)
I showed this car to my wife and she loved it. She likes "traditional" luxury cars and FWD... she doesn't care for RWD and snow.   Cadillac's jumping out of the FWD luxury biz... she's got an SLS, says DeVille is too big, ES330 is too ugly and Acuras are too bland. There aren't many others.   IMO, there's a big market for something like this, if it's executed properly.
#66 of 2865 by nvbanker May 15, 2004 (8:25 am)
Hope you're right, so does Bill.
#67 of 2865 eaton53, by buckwheat May 15, 2004 (4:56 pm)
you're wife will love this car if it is just like the one that was on display at the NY auto show, beautiful all white upholstery, I'm sure it will be low maintenance if you don't have kids or allow anyone in as a passenger just leave the drivers seat open and hermetically seal off the rest
#68 of 2865 No kids by eaton53 May 15, 2004 (8:08 pm)
And her '94 SLS has light tan leather, which is very clean.... so, no problem.   She wants a smaller, more economical car, but doesn't want a harsh ride or to give up any of the luxury (wood, leather, etc.) she's used to. And FWD is a plus, not a minus for her. It has to be good looking, too... nothing ugly or bland will do.   The Jag X-type was the probably the closest thing to the car I just described... just a bit too pricey with the unwanted complexity of AWD.
#69 of 2865 by buckwheat May 16, 2004 (8:23 am)
From what I have read the Jaguar "X" dimensions will be quite close to the Zephyr. The Zephyr with about 107.4" wheelbase and 71" wide will be about 3.8" shorter in wheelbase and 3.2" narrower than the 94 Caddy. As far as the final price (?) it should be less than the Jaguar X with AWD and the 227hp V6 5 speed auto-premium fuel model but not far off from the 192hp V6. I believe the real guide will be the low end of the Lincoln LS V6, Lincoln's least expensive car right now, which starts at $32,265 even though it is rear wheel drive and dimensionally larger. How much less the Zephyr will tap out at (?). Competition is Acura TL, Lexus ES300, Infiniti G35, and Cadillac CTS. The average price of these cars should also be considered for averaging only because each brings to the table many variants. The initial Zephyr FWD will have a 6 speed auto 3.0 V6.. While I mentioned white upholstery it will actually be cream colored, but when I saw it, it looked quite white, the dash will also have a light colored blond wood. The combination I thought was attractive, practical (?). The Zephyr borrows its name from the first affordably priced Lincoln ever built in 1936. Affordability, will history repeat.
#70 of 2865 I hope by eaton53 May 16, 2004 (9:21 am)
The Lincoln 3.0 will cost less than the Jag 2.5, which gets very pricey very quickly when optioned.   Also hope the standard equipment level will be higher, too.... and that they've learned from the Aviator - price aggressively from the start instead of overpricing it, having cars languishing on the lots and having to rebate the heck out of it. Start this thing in the high $20K's.

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