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#2798 of 2856 MKZ test drive by bobgwtw Apr 11, 2009 (7:08 pm)
#2799 of 2856 2010 Test drive by bobgwtw Apr 13, 2009 (8:34 pm)
Had an opportunity to drive the 10 MKZ this weekend. It's quiet & is actually enjoyable to drive on the curving, rolling secondary roads I had an opportunity to drive, as well as the interstate.The car had the sport suspension so it rode like they forgot to put the springs under it on anything but a smooth road. (I had just driven a Fusion Hybrid over the same route & it was as quiet or quieter than the Z. It handled as well & the ride was much, much better on the rough patches). Interior is nice & of decent quality, but a lot of the switchgear is placed so it's necessary to take your eyes off the road to operate it.   My one real complaint about the car is price. I want adaptive headlights, BU camera & the blindspot/cross traffic system that, after using them, I consider worthwhile safety additions, The only way I can get them on the Z is to buy packages containing items I don't want or need; and they push the sticker price to well over $40,000. This not a $40,000 car. A comparable Fusion, minus the adaptive headlights, with a less upscale interior lists for $11,000 less! This one is off my short list. Replies to this message: tiger16 (Apr 14, 2009 3:41 am) akirby (Apr 14, 2009 5:12 am) berad (Apr 23, 2009 7:57 am)
#2800 of 2856 Re: 2010 Test drive [bobgwtw] by tiger16 Apr 14, 2009 (3:41 am)
Replying to: bobgwtw (Apr 13, 2009 8:34 pm) In a previous post, I mentioned that Ford was careless with the pricing of the 2010 MKZ. IMO they have bumped up the price too much. They'll need big rebates to sell the car and that's not good for a car attempting to establish itself in this market segment. Another poster stated that the increase was in large part due to some items being made standard. I get that but, it doesn't change the fact that the price has gone up quite a bit. I think it a bit foolhardy for Ford to think that they can price the Z at the ES price point at this time especially when the Z is still lacking some of those refined touches that define such a car. As far as the options go, I too was frustrated when I went through the Z site and found that to get certain things, I had to order packages that included things I didn't want. If I didn't want them in the first place, I surely don't want to have to pay for them. I know other companies do the same thing, doesn't make it right. Making these things standalone options would help sales of the Z, IMO. I test drove the 07 and 08 Z and didn't like the ride. I thought it was a bit stiff. I would have no interest in the sport suspension. Glad they made that an option. Replies to this message: akirby (Apr 14, 2009 5:12 am) berad (Apr 23, 2009 7:57 am)
#2801 of 2856 Re: 2010 Test drive [tiger16] by akirby Apr 14, 2009 (5:12 am)
Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 14, 2009 3:41 am) They'll need big rebates to sell the car   And you know this how? Just because it seems overpriced to you doesn't mean other buyers feel the same.   Besides - Hermosillo is limited to about 300,000 Fusions, Milans and MKZs per year - total and the new Fusion and Milan should be able to sell almost that many on their own. Sounds like they decided to make the MKZ lower volume but higher profit. You may not like it but given the circumstances it sounds like the right business decision. I guess only time will tell.   If the Fulans can sell close to 300,000 units on their own then my guess would be that with the next redesign the MKZ will get all of the currently missing features plus 100% unique sheetmetal and possibly move to another plant. But that's probably 3 years out. Replies to this message: berad (Apr 23, 2009 7:57 am)
#2802 of 2856 2010 MKZ mileage by akirby Apr 14, 2009 (5:14 am)
My source says the gearing was changed for 2010 for better acceleration which dropped FE from 28 to 27 highway. As I said before 27 still matches the competition but acceleration is better than the 2009 model. Sounds like a decent tradeoff.
#2803 of 2856 Got my 2010 MKZ yesterday by huskie13 Apr 15, 2009 (4:33 pm)
I traded in my 2006 Zephyr for the 2010 MKZ ultimate sport, Black. It is a blast to drive, it is quite, fast, and drives like so much better than my Zephyr. my car is number 1196 if i am reading the vin right. Replies to this message: tiger16 (Apr 16, 2009 3:42 am) huskie13 (Apr 16, 2009 5:27 am) texases (Apr 16, 2009 5:32 am)
#2804 of 2856 Re: Got my 2010 MKZ yesterday [huskie13] by tiger16 Apr 16, 2009 (3:42 am)
Replying to: huskie13 (Apr 15, 2009 4:33 pm) I have a Zephyr and will be getting a 2010 "something." One complaint I have with my 06 is engine noise during acceleration - it can get rather raucous. It just doesn't have that refined sound. How is the engine sound with the 10? When you say the 10 drives so much better than the 06, how so? Ride comfort? Handling? I'm much more interested in a comfortable ride. I got rid of my Maxima because I could no longer take the stiff suspension and I didn't get a pre-10 MKZ because I thought the MKZ's ride was somewhere between the Maxima and my 06. Also, out of curiosity, what audio system did you get? I kicked off a few posts concerning CD changer vs the new THX so, I'm a little interested in what buyers are going for. Replies to this message: huskie13 (Apr 16, 2009 5:27 am) texases (Apr 16, 2009 5:32 am)
#2805 of 2856 Re: Got my 2010 MKZ yesterday [tiger16] by huskie13 Apr 16, 2009 (5:27 am)
Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 16, 2009 3:42 am) Tiger, the 10's engine is very refined, that was also one of my dislikes, when I got my Zephyr, i also test drove a ES350. and after that i didn't like the Zephyr that much. this engine is much more refined, sounds good, and has no vibration at idle.   As I got the sport version the ride is stiff, but after the zephyr, i wanted that way as I like a performance feeling car.   I have the THX and it sounds better than the Zephyr, very clear, but does not seem as loud? With the option of burning CDs to the HD way would you need a changer?   let me know if you have any other questions. Replies to this message: texases (Apr 16, 2009 5:32 am)
#2806 of 2856 Re: Got my 2010 MKZ yesterday [huskie13] by texases Apr 16, 2009 (5:32 am)
Replying to: huskie13 (Apr 16, 2009 5:27 am) Am I correct that the only way to get the THX is in the package with the sunroof? That won't work for me...
#2807 of 2856 Re: 2010 Test drive [akirby] by berad Apr 23, 2009 (7:57 am)
Replying to: akirby (Apr 14, 2009 5:12 am) I agree rebates will be needed to sell this car. The local Lincoln dealer has been moving the current generation well over a year by advertising it at $26K. The 2010 will have to find its way into this territory to move as well. That being said, the MKZ in a sub $30K territory will be very attractive against the family sedan competition and should have really its eyes set on the Acura TSX. The MKZ north of $34K enters into the land of the TL, G35, 3 Series, GS, CTS where its not just as refined in overall dynamics to compete.   All that being said, I would wait till the 09 inventory is gone before buying this car. The discounts will come as they always do. If the 2010 rolls down to $26K it becomes a very compelling buy.

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