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About.com:cars review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ by theman123
Apr 09, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Well this will make some peopels brain hurt. the 2010 Lincoln MKZ is as nice as a Lexus350,
About.car:com review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ
 
This is going to stir things up a bit.
 
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Re: About.com:cars review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ [theman123] by texases
Apr 09, 2009 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: theman123 (Apr 09, 2009 1:58 pm)

Hmm....been needing to replace my '96 ES, but the new ES doesn't do much for me, and the previous MXZ styling was not so hot. The new one is much improved. I'll have to take a look.
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An Increase in Passion? by tiger16
Apr 10, 2009 (4:25 am)
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This is more like it! Some activity on this board. Lincoln can sure use the interest. In a previous post, I pointed out that the highway mileage is down. Does anyone know why? Seems like the tweaking and, from what I understand a new tranny, would have created better mileage.
Also, some posters have waxed royally about the jukebox thing. I still like the changer but, I'm open minded. Supposedly, this thing can house 16 downloaded CDs. I'm not sure what the benefit is if your collection is extensive (I have over 400 CDs). What happens to the other 384+? Seems like I can only load them one at a time after the intial 16 so, essentially, it's still only a single play. I'm not trying to bash the system at this point, I'm just trying to understand it. Can someone direct me to a website?
At this point, I'm no longer considering a 2010 MKZ, however, a little knowledge can't hurt. And who knows. If I can get through this CD thing and Lincoln offers a dressup option for the ugly all black console, I might change my mind.
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [tiger16] by akirby
Apr 10, 2009 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 4:25 am)

You take 16 or so CDs (assuming 600 mb each on a 10 gb drive) and you load them one at a time, and tell it to copy to the internal drive. Then you load the next one. Only takes a few minutes from what I've heard. Then you have all the songs from all 16 CDs available to play all at once. Just like having a 16 CD changer except you don't have to change from disc to disc. Then you still have the single CD slot if you want to listen to something different. Or you can delete a ripped CD and rip a new one anytime you want. The only thing you lose is that it takes a couple of minutes to rip the cd to the internal drive. You can also use iTunes on your computer (for free), load all your CDs and put them onto a usb flash drive as MP3s and have all of them available (or whatever will fit on a flash drive) at once. A 8 gb flash drive would hold at least a thousand songs (at slightly lower quality than audio CDs).
 
So what do you think of the article posted above?
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [tiger16] by brucelinc
Apr 10, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 4:25 am)

Tiger, there is usually a logical explanation for everything but, off the top of my balding head, I can't tell you why the EPA highway rating dropped by 1 MPG. The aerodynamics are a bit better on the '10 and it is geared more favorably for highway fuel economy than the '09. Logic would tell us that the '10 should be a bit better. I will keep digging on this one.
 
I get a lot of Ford/Lincoln information from the link below. I am not nearly the audiophile that akirby or you are but here is a quote from the information sheet on the MKZ:
 
In addition, the system features a 10 GB hard drive jukebox, allowing Lincoln owners to store up to 2,400 favorite music tracks.
 
Somewhere else on the media ford site, it mentions 150 hours of music can be stored. In any case, if you have 6 CDs loaded in a 6 disc changer and you own 394 more, wouldn't that present the same issue as you describe in your post?
 
http://media.ford.com/brand.cfm?make_id=2593
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [brucelinc] by tiger16
Apr 10, 2009 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Apr 10, 2009 5:54 am)

My thinking with the CD changer is that I can rountinely eject one or more and load one or more at any time. I quite honesty don't know how this 16 CD archive for the jukebox works. Can the 16 (or any amount) routinely be changed? How do you cycle through over 2000 tunes to find what you are looking for? Especially while you are driving down the highway at 65. How long does it take to download a CD? I can load 6 CDs in a changer in about 30 seconds. How do you organize the 2000 tunes? How quickly can you access a particular tune? A lot of questions so, you can see my ignorance here. Perhaps the jukebox is a bit of audio evolution - like the 8 track being replaced by cassette and the cassette being replaced by CD.
I'm planning on getting a 2010 and I really want to like the MKZ more than I do right now. My Zephyr has been the most dependable and durable car I've ever owned.
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [tiger16] by brucelinc
Apr 10, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 6:25 am)

A Lincoln rep demonstrated all of that to me at an MKS preview event last summer but I don't remember all the details. It is voice activated and you can just press a button on the steering wheel and say, "Bruce Springsteen" or whatever, and it would find it. You could also say the name of a particular song and it would find and play it. I think there are some demonstrations of the capability on U-tube.
 
I make no claim to being an expert on in-car entertainment. It sounds like you are far more of an audio buff than I am but for my simple needs, I thought the jukebox feature was a big step up from carrying around CDs. Of course, I usually just listen to talk radio......
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Jukebox and other Media by bigt
Apr 10, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 6:25 am)

The Milian HB Juke box is 10 gig and can hold an estimated 2,472 tracks of music in the 'Gracenote' musical database. Gracenote is the engine of the Navigation system of the MKS also.
 
http://www.gracenote.com/
 
At first I thought you could record songs from Sirus radio however the record option only applies to CD's. I am not sure where the 16 cd number is coming from. Basically you put a CD in the drive, select the tracks you want to record and it copies them off the CD and onto the Jukebox. The CD could contain regular .cda stuff or mp3's including play lists you have created on the disc. As long as you have space in the Jukebox you can put all the tracks you want there.
 
Once the tracks are in your jukebox you can create play lists for them. As for accessing them you have a ton of options:
 
Play all tracks, play list, play genre, play artist, play album, etc. While driving you can access all of this stuff via voice commands such as play Bob dylan. Or you can say search genre, search album, search artist, search track. You can even use a 'refine' command after whatever your initial search results came up. So if you said search jazz and then a list of jazz came up you could say 'refine artist Paul Hardcastle' and his tracks will come up and then you could say 'refine album Hardcastle 5' and the tracks from that come up without you touching a button.
 
If the 10 gig is not enough than Sync allows you to plug into the USB port any media device. I have a 2 terabyte device that fits into the compartment by the driver seat! Whatever you plug in SYNC starts indexing all of the media and playlist files contained on it. Once the indexing is done all of the commands referenced above via voice are availiable or you can touch screen them. Lots of the commands can be touched by the passenger also.
 
For us ole-timers who cannot remember which Hendix song is playing you can even ask 'whats playing' and it will read the metadata tags and tell you.
 
Supported media files are mp3, wma, wav, and aac.
 
If you don't have USB flash drives or devices, plug in a Ipod, Zune or any other media player and again everything is indexed including existing playlist you have on the device.
 
Also if you have a USB port phone charger just plug it in and off charging you go. Or you can always just use your home phone charger because in the rear you have a real standard 120 volt outlet for your laptop or phone.
 
Sync will also create new playlists on the fly if you want. If something is playing just say 'create similar playlist' and off the indexer will go.
 
If you still need a music fix start streaming music frm your bluetooth enabled phone.
 
If you get bored of just audio stimulation put in the concert DVD and watch that. When you are stopped you get the video and audio. Once you start moving you just get the audio!
 
In my opinion in this area this system is a 'homerun'. Now if we can just get the Washington Nationals to do the same this season I will really be happy.
 
As for the car, downtown yesterday at night and as the valet brought it out folks were saying stuff like, 'wow, did not know Mercury had a hybrid, and it looks like a real car'.
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Re: Jukebox and other Media [bigt] by akirby
Apr 10, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: bigt (Apr 10, 2009 7:06 am)

Since you can only copy songs to the jukebox from CDs I assumed it was storing songs in CD audio format and not MP3 format. In which case 10 gb would only hold about 16 CDs (at 600 mb each). If it's ripping the songs in MP3 format then that would explain why it can hold up to 150 hours of music rather than just 16 or so. That's the equivalent of about 150 cds. So it appears you can load your entire cd library (or at least the first 150 cds) directly onto the jukebox. And I'm sure you can delete old ones and add new ones anytime you want.
 
Soooo.........6 cds or 150 cds plus one in the disc slot. Hmmm.......that's a tough one.
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Re: Jukebox and other Media [akirby] by tiger16
Apr 10, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Apr 10, 2009 7:58 am)

Gee, this jukebox thing is sounding (no pun intended) better all the time. So, if I can still "change out" whole CDs somewhat like a changer, I could be happy.
About the article on the MKZ. I have no doubt that there are areas that the MKZ has improved (ride, quietness, performance) and it is probably on a par with the ES in many ways. Overall, I'm sure it is nicer than my Zephyr. A few things bother me. One is the gas mileage. It's not so much that it decreased 1 mpg; it's more the fact that it decreased at all. I just think the proper evolution would be to increase gas mileage when you tweak a car. The 17.5 gallon fuel tank also bothers me. My weekly work commute is over 500 miles and an extra gallon or two would really be nice. The other things pertain to the interior. It's an improvement but, for what it's supposed to be, it could be better. A nicer steering wheel, some wood on the console, a wood shifter and for sure, rear air vents. And the real frustrating thing is that these items are not high dollar items - they're mere pennies relative to the price of the car. They're a bunch of little things that collectively contribute to the definition of a "luxury" car. At least offer some of these things as interior enhancement options. I think correcting these "little" things could help change the pervading perception of Lincoln and help sell some cars! Check out the ES and CTS interiors.

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