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Re: 2010 MKZ test drive [brucelinc] by akirby
Apr 09, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Apr 09, 2009 10:08 am)

Sounds to me like they spent all their resources on the Fulanz and Taurus and the MKS will have to wait another year or two - except for the ecoboost engine.
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Re: 2010 MKZ test drive [akirby] by brucelinc
Apr 09, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Apr 09, 2009 10:46 am)

While the MKS will never suit everyone, the twin-turbo engine is really all it needed to satisfy me. I quibble about a few other things but we could do that about any car. Nearly 350 ft.lb of torque at 1500 rpm can help me forget about some of its other shortcomings.
 
The MKS already has the structural enhancements that the 2010 Taurus is getting. Other than some engine noise from the 3.7, the MKS is a very quiet car and I think the suspension tuning is about right, considering its mission. While totally worthless to me, "park assist" will be available. I guess that trumps adjustable pedals from a technology viewpoint.
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Re: 2010 MKZ test drive [brucelinc] by akirby
Apr 09, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Apr 09, 2009 11:21 am)

I don't think I've needed to parallel park in at least 15 years. I can't even think of any place around me that even has parallel parking spaces available. But I do think it's neat.
 
I think rather than gripe about what the MKS doesn't have (yet) that we should applaud Ford for not holding back on the Taurus features. In the past that would not have happened. That's a good sign. Ford is priority 1 right now, Lincoln is second and Mercury is only getting crumbs. Which is the right way to do it.
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About.com:cars review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ by theman123
Apr 09, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Well this will make some peopels brain hurt. the 2010 Lincoln MKZ is as nice as a Lexus350,
About.car:com review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ
 
This is going to stir things up a bit.
 
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Re: About.com:cars review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ [theman123] by texases
Apr 09, 2009 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: theman123 (Apr 09, 2009 1:58 pm)

Hmm....been needing to replace my '96 ES, but the new ES doesn't do much for me, and the previous MXZ styling was not so hot. The new one is much improved. I'll have to take a look.
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An Increase in Passion? by tiger16
Apr 10, 2009 (4:25 am)
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This is more like it! Some activity on this board. Lincoln can sure use the interest. In a previous post, I pointed out that the highway mileage is down. Does anyone know why? Seems like the tweaking and, from what I understand a new tranny, would have created better mileage.
Also, some posters have waxed royally about the jukebox thing. I still like the changer but, I'm open minded. Supposedly, this thing can house 16 downloaded CDs. I'm not sure what the benefit is if your collection is extensive (I have over 400 CDs). What happens to the other 384+? Seems like I can only load them one at a time after the intial 16 so, essentially, it's still only a single play. I'm not trying to bash the system at this point, I'm just trying to understand it. Can someone direct me to a website?
At this point, I'm no longer considering a 2010 MKZ, however, a little knowledge can't hurt. And who knows. If I can get through this CD thing and Lincoln offers a dressup option for the ugly all black console, I might change my mind.
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [tiger16] by akirby
Apr 10, 2009 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 4:25 am)

You take 16 or so CDs (assuming 600 mb each on a 10 gb drive) and you load them one at a time, and tell it to copy to the internal drive. Then you load the next one. Only takes a few minutes from what I've heard. Then you have all the songs from all 16 CDs available to play all at once. Just like having a 16 CD changer except you don't have to change from disc to disc. Then you still have the single CD slot if you want to listen to something different. Or you can delete a ripped CD and rip a new one anytime you want. The only thing you lose is that it takes a couple of minutes to rip the cd to the internal drive. You can also use iTunes on your computer (for free), load all your CDs and put them onto a usb flash drive as MP3s and have all of them available (or whatever will fit on a flash drive) at once. A 8 gb flash drive would hold at least a thousand songs (at slightly lower quality than audio CDs).
 
So what do you think of the article posted above?
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [tiger16] by brucelinc
Apr 10, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 4:25 am)

Tiger, there is usually a logical explanation for everything but, off the top of my balding head, I can't tell you why the EPA highway rating dropped by 1 MPG. The aerodynamics are a bit better on the '10 and it is geared more favorably for highway fuel economy than the '09. Logic would tell us that the '10 should be a bit better. I will keep digging on this one.
 
I get a lot of Ford/Lincoln information from the link below. I am not nearly the audiophile that akirby or you are but here is a quote from the information sheet on the MKZ:
 
In addition, the system features a 10 GB hard drive jukebox, allowing Lincoln owners to store up to 2,400 favorite music tracks.
 
Somewhere else on the media ford site, it mentions 150 hours of music can be stored. In any case, if you have 6 CDs loaded in a 6 disc changer and you own 394 more, wouldn't that present the same issue as you describe in your post?
 
http://media.ford.com/brand.cfm?make_id=2593
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [brucelinc] by tiger16
Apr 10, 2009 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Apr 10, 2009 5:54 am)

My thinking with the CD changer is that I can rountinely eject one or more and load one or more at any time. I quite honesty don't know how this 16 CD archive for the jukebox works. Can the 16 (or any amount) routinely be changed? How do you cycle through over 2000 tunes to find what you are looking for? Especially while you are driving down the highway at 65. How long does it take to download a CD? I can load 6 CDs in a changer in about 30 seconds. How do you organize the 2000 tunes? How quickly can you access a particular tune? A lot of questions so, you can see my ignorance here. Perhaps the jukebox is a bit of audio evolution - like the 8 track being replaced by cassette and the cassette being replaced by CD.
I'm planning on getting a 2010 and I really want to like the MKZ more than I do right now. My Zephyr has been the most dependable and durable car I've ever owned.
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Re: An Increase in Passion? [tiger16] by brucelinc
Apr 10, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: tiger16 (Apr 10, 2009 6:25 am)

A Lincoln rep demonstrated all of that to me at an MKS preview event last summer but I don't remember all the details. It is voice activated and you can just press a button on the steering wheel and say, "Bruce Springsteen" or whatever, and it would find it. You could also say the name of a particular song and it would find and play it. I think there are some demonstrations of the capability on U-tube.
 
I make no claim to being an expert on in-car entertainment. It sounds like you are far more of an audio buff than I am but for my simple needs, I thought the jukebox feature was a big step up from carrying around CDs. Of course, I usually just listen to talk radio......

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