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Re: Problem with sub frame on 2006 Sedona EX [kiaray] by byyall
Dec 21, 2007 (10:43 pm)
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Replying to: kiaray (Dec 21, 2007 6:07 pm)

I also have a 2006 Sedona, but have had some other problems with it. The dealer is NO HELP in Columbia, SC. The back passenger side door is very noisy when driving on highway. They say it is "the nature of the beast" and all of them do it. Tell me if yours does it also. The left side is fine. Thanks. Carolyn
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Re: Problem with sub frame on 2006 Sedona EX [byyall] by capecoralbill
Dec 22, 2007 (2:38 am)
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Replying to: byyall (Dec 21, 2007 10:43 pm)

My 2007 Entourage is not noisey, can you describe the noise, is it wind, or a rattle?
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Re: Problem with sub frame on 2006 Sedona EX [kiaray] by user777
Dec 22, 2007 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: kiaray (Dec 21, 2007 6:07 pm)

if i'm not mistaken, a bushing is a hardened piece of rubber used at points where there is a mechanical pivot or hinge point, or otherwise pieces of metal come together and there needs to be some mechanical compliance. when they wear and that shouldn't happen in 18K, they may become overly compliant or allow metal parts to move too much.
 
having a sub-frame go, that seems a bit different, like they were using inferior metals that either corroded (rusted), or fatigued under stress and bent and/or fractured.
 
i suppose if the bushing materials failed and you had metal on metal contact, then you'd have to have particular elements replaced, like perhaps a sway-bar or a wheel arm or something like that.... but not a whole sub-frame.
 
there is something about your description that causes me confusion and no-doubt may cause others similar confusion.
 
your report could help others if you were more specific. was it something in the front or rear-end? were was the problem? did you see what failed? do you have the wording from your service record?
 
it may help other owners to know what to be vigilant about.
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Re:Noise on 2006 Sedona EX [capecoralbill] by byyall
Dec 22, 2007 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: capecoralbill (Dec 22, 2007 2:38 am)

The noise is a wind noise coming from the side back passenger door. Sometimes it will not open or shut correctly and the wind noise is terrible when we are on the road. The dealer is absolutely useless. They say if they tried to do anything to the door it "could make the noise worse". Sounds like truly ingenious people there, huh?
I called a dealelrship in Charleston, SC and they said if I could leave the van for a few days they would work on it. The problem is they are 3 hours away meaning we would have to drive down then home and back again to pick up the van. That may be the way we go because it is so frustrating.
The Kia dealer here has fixed absolutely nothing we have taken the van in for.
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Re:Noise on 2006 Sedona EX [capecoralbill] by byyall
Dec 22, 2007 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: capecoralbill (Dec 22, 2007 2:38 am)

The noise is a wind noise coming from the side back passenger door. Sometimes it will not open or shut correctly and the wind noise is terrible when we are on the road. The dealer is absolutely useless. They say if they tried to do anything to the door it "could make the noise worse". Sounds like truly ingenious people there, huh?
I called a dealership in Charleston, SC and they said if I could leave the van for a few days they would work on it. The problem is they are 3 hours away meaning we would have to drive down then home and back again to pick up the van. That may be the way we go because it is so frustrating.
The Kia dealer here has fixed absolutely nothing we have taken the van in for.
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Re: Problem with sub frame on 2006 Sedona EX [user777] by kiaray
Dec 25, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Dec 22, 2007 5:58 am)

Sorry I wasn't more descriptive, sort of defeated the whole purpose of the post. The noise that I was hearing was coming from the front and particularly on turns. I could hear it clearly while pulling into and out of an inclined driveway as well as when hitting bumps on the road surface.
 
Paperwork from dealership reads:
 
Customer states when driving over bumps the front end sounds like it is bottoming out
Subframe bushings loose
Replaced subframe
 
I'm not mechanically inclined, so know nothing about bushings. Didn't realized until I read your response and dug out the paperwork that it stated the subframe bushings were loose. Service manager told me when they initially diagnosed the problem that it was the result of worn bushings. Worn, loose, whatever - they had to replace the entire subframe. Part number is 62405-4D100, Noun is Crossmember Complete
 
I did not see the replaced part.
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Re: Problem with sub frame on 2006 Sedona EX [kiaray] by user777
Dec 26, 2007 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: kiaray (Dec 25, 2007 11:57 am)

i'm not an expert in this area, but one would expect that if a bushing were worn or torn or needing replacement, it would be a simple matter of replacing a hardened rubber item as i described.
 
but your whole sub-frame was replaced... and that is interesting. perhaps i have the wrong idea what a sub-frame is.
 
to me anyway, it seems your work-order isn't very descriptive or complete; to me the damage or the problem or whatever was much more extensive than one or more bushings.
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Re: I hope [samnoe] by kyle11
Dec 27, 2007 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: samnoe (Mar 30, 2004 7:38 pm)

It is so cheep it is not maid in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kia by kyle11
Dec 27, 2007 (9:42 pm)
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I hate kia.
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Re: I hope [kyle11] by byyall
Dec 27, 2007 (10:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyle11 (Dec 27, 2007 9:41 pm)

I just wondered what model KIA you have and what problems you experienced. Many of us are in the same boat. I don't hate Kia but I do not like the lack of service the dealer in Columbia, SC gives. I have not gotten one problem solved with my 2006 Sedona since I purchased it new in June of '06.
 
I DO LOVE THE Van. The steering is tight, which I don't like. In fact what is it with the HUGE DIAMETERS in the steering wheels these days. It is truly uncomfortable and not only the Kia, but all other minivans I have driven.
 
You get a lot of car for the money; however, the stress of trying to get anything fixed on one is really not worth it. I wish I had selected Honda or Toyota instead.

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