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#566 of 999 Re: Canadian Purchase [b9driver]
Jun 02, 2006 (11:50 pm)
I live on Long Island, NY and between visiting and calling contacted 6 dealers and not one had the Kia with all three packages in stock. Now the rebates and financing deals are not as good as the ones that expired 5/31/06. I own a 2003 Sedona EX that has given us 49k of trouble free miles except for two recalls that were fixed in a couple of hours. My wife and I love the 2006 and wanted to upgrade to it but I guess we will have to wait now.
#567 of 999 Re: Canadian Purchase [juicedup]
Jun 03, 2006 (9:56 am)
Major Kia on Northern Blvd. had plenty of loaded Sedona's a couple of weeks ago. I can't imagine they're all gone and no more came in.
#568 of 999 Re: Canadian Purchase [b9driver]
Jun 03, 2006 (12:06 pm)
thanks b9driver. I live on Eastern Long Island and didn't check Major. I went to Stevins,Atlantic,Autoworld,Eagle, and called Smith Haven and Sun. It would have been a good idea to check Major but my wife didn't want to go all the way to Queens. The incentives were excellent now it would cost me $1000 more plus a higher rate according to the Kia website. I feel like calling Kia to complain. Do you think that would help?
#569 of 999 Re: Canadian Purchase [juicedup]
Jun 03, 2006 (4:12 pm)
I paid under 28K for my totally loaded Sedona in glacier blue, with an alarm and remote start as well. Even without the incentive you can come close I think. They want to sell volume.
Ask for Lou and tell them Bob Brody sent you and I make 200 bucks for the referal if you buy!
Good luck...you can contact me for more info if you like.
Capt Robert B
#570 of 999 Thought I'd just make your day !!
Jun 04, 2006 (9:48 am)
For those of you who already own a new Kia Sedona, or those anticipating purchase of same, check out the article by Warren Brown in today's Washington Post !!! Never have I seen such praise for a vehicle as this !!
#571 of 999 Driving Impressions
Jun 04, 2006 (11:32 am)
I took my 2006 Sedona on a week holiday to Virginia Beach putting 2500 miles on the odometer. Here are a few impressions. First the odometer is wildly optomistic out by almost 10 percent verified by gps and construction radar. I will be speaking to Kia to find the tolerence on the speedometer. We were loaded (and I mean loaded, 3 adults and 2 kids with all our camping gear and the van had power to spare (two large containers on the roof). The rear suspension was low, the trailer hitch bottomed out too many times for comfort (no trailer just the internal load). Fuel ecomomy was better than my 2002 Olds minivan but that minivan was a pig. I will give the numbers once I sit down and do the math. The seats and driving was comfortable, the air worked well in 101 degree heat. I will look into changing the rear shocks to air shocks. I have 4000 KM on the van and so far other than the speedometer out by 10 percent I am very pleased with the Sedona.
#572 of 999 Grand Caravan vs Sedona
Jun 04, 2006 (10:01 pm)
I am getting ready to buy a minivan and would like input regarding these two vans. The Grand Caravan SE and the Sedona LX. I have test driven both and here are my impressions of each.
Grand Caravan is better looking but it still looks like the 1996 that my parents have. I like the greenhouse better but the head and tail lights are not to my liking. And why does Dodge have to use black fascias on all the base models of their vehicles? Sedona looks they aped the look of the Sienna and threw in an Odyssey front end. Not as smooth as Caravan but tasteful and elegant and less common on the road. Also, sliding door tracks are not tucked away like on Caravan.
No contest Sedona is much better and feature filled compared to the Caravan. Caravan dash looks ugly, MUCH worser than the 1996 model. Has black treatments and black solid lightweight(ie. cheap) buttons. Kind of feels like a rental car not a 2006 vehicle. Sedona dash looks and feels more upscale. Armrests on Caravan are stiff and uncomfortable. Seating comfort also goes to Sedona. I do not want the Stow&Go on the Caravan as the rear buckets on those models feel like they were designed for midgets. Third-row in Caravan feels thinly padded and storage compartments feel cheaper than 1996 model. 3rd row legroom seems a bit tight in both models but fine for my purposes. Stereo systems about equal quality. 3-zone AC standard on Sedona have to pay $2000 extra for package that includes p/w, p/l, and some other things on GC. I like the column shifter on the Caravan better but Sedona has Sportmatic feature.
Sedona also takes this one. Caravan feels taxed when accelerating into interstate until transmission shifts. Sedona is smoother and much more powerful. And it is a DOHC unit vs the GC's pushrod V-6. Also has extra gear on transmission. Fuel economy is 19/26 on Caravan vs 18/25 for Sedona. I'll take the tradeoff of 1mpg for 64 more hp.
No firsthand experience here thankfully. Sedona has everything standard. GC has curtain airbags optional but no VSC or TPMS. Can get TPMS by upgrading to SXT model but then I get stuck with Stow&Go. Another one for the Sedona.
Did not start negotiations yet at any dealer. GC stickers at 27,735. There is currently a 4000 rebate bringing the price down to 23,735. Sedona Sticker of 24,865 with the DVD package. Dealers here try to add 1,495 for an environmental protection package which is really a ripoff fee. After telling me it was required, salesperson decided to change his mind after I objected to it strongly. There is currently a 1500 rebate and I can get an additional 400 for the college grad rebate. Total MSRP before negotiations is $22,295. I figure that Dodge dealers will be willing to budge a bit more on the price of the GC. Hopefully there will be employee sales soon.
I can't believe I'm saying this but I would much rather have a Kia over the Caravan. I tried so much to like the Dodge as my family has owned 2 Caravans but it seems to be outclassed by newer competition. It's time for Dodge to redesign these to keep up.
Has anybody else compared these two vans. I would like to compare notes and thoughts with anybody else.
#573 of 999 Re: Grand Caravan vs Sedona [crimmaj500]
Jun 05, 2006 (3:49 am)
Has anybody else compared these two vans. I would like to compare notes and thoughts with anybody else. >>>>
There is no comparison. Kia mostly targeted the Sienna and Honda minivans for the Sedona, not the terrible Chrysler vans which continue to trail in almost every area. I still think the AWD Sienna is probably the best van as it's AWD, BUT after that the Sedona is actually nicer than the other entries including the Honda. Forget the Caravan.
BTW, Kia chose to only make the 3rd row stowable so they'd have better 2nd row seats than the Caravan...which they do. Not only that but the 13 speaker infinity DVD stereo system in the Sedona EX is not only better than the Caravan's, it's perhaps one of the best on the market for stock systems.
Power wise the Sedona is the class leader and then there's the warranty.
The ONLY thing to worry about is how often the Sedona will require service...to many visits can be a hassle time-wise. Only time will tell.
Thus far our loaded Kia EX impresses everyone...it's even nicer than our Subaru Tribeca (also a nice ride) and feels every bit as upscale as the Lexus GS330. The 7.1 surround sound DVD system is amazing, the ride is quiet, handling surprisingly tight...and I we don't hear a single rattle!
This is my list of BEST MINIVANS..based on driving them, sitting in them and so on....
Toyota Sienna AWD
Kia Sedonna EX
Honda Odyssey (also great when loaded!)
After these come the US built models which are pretty awful. My father owned 2 Chrysler minivans and they showed awful quality issues. He finally got the message and bought a Subaru...can't wait for their minivan!
In short....don't get a Caravan.
#574 of 999 Re: Grand Caravan vs Sedona [crimmaj500]
Jun 05, 2006 (7:11 pm)
I think your impressions of the two minivans echo my feelings as well. Our turnoffs of the DCX vans were:
- Dashboard layout
- Overall fit and finish
- Stow&Go seats uncomfortable
- Average safety ratings
- Lack of stability control
- "Old school" engine and 4 speed transmission
- Not as powerful as competitors
- Questionable reliability
- Questionable resale
- Warranty not as long as competitors (Honda, Toyota, Kia)
That said, here are some advantages:
- Price. In my area you can get a completely loaded GC SXT with leather, heated seats, power doors and liftgate, sunroof, DVD player, etc for $24K
- The Kia's second row seats do not slide sideways
- Larger dealer network for service/warranty issues
Like the DCX vans, the Kia also has questionable reliability and resale (verdict is obviously still out on the 06, but the previous generation Sedona had poor reliability according to CR). Obviously the new generation of Kia vans is superior to the previous generation but Kia needs to continue to build on their reliability.
Overall, I would probably go with the Kia. The safety features and just overall engineering and fit and finish are huge factors.