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#442 of 999 Previous Gen Sedona's rear heater lines rusting through!
Feb 08, 2006 (11:40 am)
There are several postings from prev-gen 2000-2003 Sedona owners who are having rear heater hot-water lines rusting through prematurely in Northern road salt states. The engine coolant quickly drains out when the line goes completely, so this could affect the lifespan of the engine! See the Edmunds thread at:
It is claimed (through the dealer) that KIA is not repairing these rust outs under warranty. KIA's rust-through warranty is *only* for the body panels. The repair costs over $500 too!
I recommended that owners of prev-gen Sedonas who HAVEN'T experienced a failure yet coat their lines with marine grease.... a trick that I read about in USENET (Google Groups).
Here's a link to the kind of grease needed:
I started thinking that unless the new Sedona has been engineered differently or with better grade lines, they'll also be susceptible to this problem.
So.... if you live in the snowbelt, you might want to think about greasing up the heater lines, brake lines, and fuel lines!
#444 of 999 Sedona at Baltimore Show
Feb 13, 2006 (10:49 am)
Finally got to see one up close, very nice upgrade from the old model. Much roomier, better seats and fabric, basically a lot closer to the class benchmarks.
I had my 2 kids with me and they liked it, too. Crawled all around the inside for a good 15 minutes or so.
Toyota had a Sienna almost facing it, but it was a loaded one, so the price was $42k vs. just $26k for the Sedona. The funny thing is, the Sienna wasn't *that* much nicer.
#445 of 999 test driven today
Feb 15, 2006 (4:29 pm)
I must say it's truly nicely equipped van. Since I haven't driven Oddysey or Sienna, I cannot present any opinion regarding comparison.
I wonder anyone can answer my question. I felt the engine sound was louder than my current car, 97 camry v6. Since, sedona is not a sedan, my comparison might not be appropriate.
Can anyone who test drove oddysey and sienna can share your comparison regarding the quietness and smoothness of ride, espcially at low gears?
Feb 16, 2006 (9:35 am)
The engine sound is not AMANTI quiet. The exhaust note is noticeable on startup and during operation. You're sitting almost on top of the engine. It is however considerably quieter than the previous model. The operation through the gears is smooth and pleasant. The adaptive transmission "learns" how the primary driver likes to accelerate and adjusts the shift points for maximum performance/mileage, from 'little old lady' style to 'Joe Racer.' The ride is as nice as Honda or Toyota...maybe better. Handles well for a minivan.
#447 of 999 Re: test driven today [dhong]
Feb 16, 2006 (3:26 pm)
Compared to the Odyssey EX-L, the Sedona is quieter. However, compared to the Odyssey EX, it is noiser. The reason? The Odyssey is raspy and lumpy due to the cylinder deactivation in the EX-L, in spite of the special engine dampers and the white noise piped into the cabin.
At cruising speeds, I hardly hear the engine in the Sedona, the noisest thing is wind noise, as they did a really good job quieting the vehicle down. Under acceleration, as I've mentioned in other reviews, the engine produces a rather pleasing throaty sound. Both the wife and I like that sound, sounds like a small V-8.
One thing i should mention, is that you have to be careful getting on it, in a turn. The torque steer will start to get you, and the tires spin. It's not a problem in straight-line acceleration. But then again, this is a big van, not a sports sedan.
Feb 17, 2006 (6:50 am)
I have seen much discussion and reviews about the fold down seats in the new 06 (and older models too) and since I have the 03 version have always wondered about this. I never hear about anyone that LIKES the sedona seats (2003, heavy ones). why? ok, so they are heavy and not stowable, fact. However, there are GOOD pluses on this fact too. first being the height of the under carriage. stowable vans of course have to ride lower underneath. my neighbor has the dodge and in our NE snow had to call for a tow in a recent storm, completely hung up, i tried to help her out. I also work on a street prone to minor flooding. again, mine sits so high, away I go! many people are not aware that the sedona of old sits much higher than other makes.
second, ALL the seats are comfortable. I'm sorry, but you cannot have it both ways, its either economy and easy, or it's comfortable and harder to remove. a comfortable, stowable seat will without a doubt NEED to approch 60 pounds. i take 3-4 seats out maybe 4-5 times a year, for trips or camping and such. i am 5-8 at 155 male, and have no problem. if i need 2x4's or sheet rock, i borrow my brothers truck!
#449 of 999 Re: Previous Gen Sedona's rear heater lines rusting through! [spectraman]
Feb 20, 2006 (1:12 pm)
SpectraMan, can you tell us the "name" of this USENET group? Also, how would I identify these lines???
Lastly, how do I apply this marine grease once I identify the lines? Thanks.
#450 of 999 Re: Previous Gen Sedona's rear heater lines rusting through! [killerk]
Feb 20, 2006 (1:43 pm)
"SpectraMan, can you tell us the "name" of this USENET group? Also, how would I identify these lines???
Lastly, how do I apply this marine grease once I identify the lines? "
Here's a link and excerpt from a good example of the type of threads I ran across in Google Groups (USENET) regarding this topic:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.tech/browse_thread/thread/fb244dce1dd32- - a9b/4791e46dd9ef3052?lnk=st&q=brake+lines+rust+%22marine+grease%22&rnum=1&hl=en#- - 4791e46dd9ef3052
From: MaxAluminum - view profile
Date: Fri, Dec 12 2003 7:45 am
Email: im.1.maxalumi...xoxy.net (MaxAluminum)
tetraethyll...yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote in message <news:r_4Cb.311496$Dw6.1049965attbi_s02>...
> In article , JW wrote:
> > Today while my car was on the lift for a simple oil change at my usual
> > mechanic I notice all the brake hose that runs under the car has
> > surface rust on them. All the brake hose has turned yellowish brown
> > because of the rust. I asked my mechanic if they should be changed. He
> > said no need to worry because he doesn't think they are leaking.
> It's no big deal. And it's the steel hardline you are refering to,
> not hoses I assume.
I put marine grease on all my brake and fuel lines. They are 21 years
old without failure here in the rust belt. I might favor the paint
though if I were starting over, but grease is fast. Also, Lubri-Matic
makes a product called Corrosion Pro that sprays on and holds very
well. You can spray those sections that go above the frame (if you
Any kind of *metal* line that's about the size of a pencil is a candidate for greasing, in my book!
I would just apply the grease liberally to the lines and rub it back and forth until all lines are coated with a thin layer. That's about all there is to it!
I'd start by powerwashing my undercarriage at a self-serve car wash as best as you can. Let it dry for a day or so (don't drive through any salt/snow), and then get your car on a mechanic's lift if at all possible.
#451 of 999 Additional info on post #450 - Re: Marine grease
Feb 21, 2006 (6:29 am)
A quick update to the message #450 above:
Actual USENET newgroup: rec.autos.tech
A *usable* link to that forum and message: http://tinyurl.com/rsbr3