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Ford Focus, Acura RSX, Sedan
#18 of 67 Re: Its Out [mindaugus #17]
May 06, 2004 (11:28 am)
It's the same base engine as the 3i, but with different heads, it supposedly has a broader torque curve and is better mated to an automatic transmission, which is the way most Foci are sold. I thought the power an the former engine was acceptable for day to day driving and the new one's better. I too hope we get the common-rail diesel. and the C-1 platform. It wouldn't make sense to switch it until next year at the earliest in NA, because they're consolidating all production at Wayne, and converting Hermosillo to production of the Car-formerly-known-as-the-Futura in 2005. I haven't heard definitely one way or the other whether they will be switching paltforms here, but the restyle sure resembles the C-1 Focus in its nose and its interior.
May 07, 2004 (11:43 am)
Very interesting about the heads. Where could I find more info on that? I don't understand why people don't wanna shift gears, and was hoping the ford focus would have the same power and efficiency as the Mazda 3 thats been getting rave reviews, without its strange gage cluster. So how does this engine compare with the competitors? By the numbers, the only resources I know, the engine has the same HP but less efficiency as the Corolla. Of course you can get the PZEV, too on the focus. What advantage does the manual focus have to a manual Corolla besides price and less snobby dealers?
#20 of 67 Re: Thanks nedc2 [mindaugus #19]
May 07, 2004 (12:53 pm)
More info can be found at:
As for why some people wouldn't want to drive a amnual transmission, I can't speak for everyone but from personal experience I can give a few reasons why I'm still undecided whether or not my next vehicle will come with an auto or a manual tranny:
Ever try to use a clutch when your left great toe was broken?
Ever try driving a manual with an arm in a sling?
Dealing with 3 pedals in a narrow footwell while wearing size 12B insulated workboots during a lovely Northern Michigan winter is quite interesting.
Short, and very steep hills, especially when you've parallell parked on them, Ann Arbor has lots of those.
I still like manuals, especially with small engines cars, but there are some legitimate reasons to choose an auto, though I would really rather have a manual with an automatic clutch, Ford offers that option on some euro models, and get the best of both worlds.
The 2.3l PZEV is gone for 2005, replaces by the Duratec 20e on CA, NY,NH etc. cars, it's slightly less powerful than the standard Duratec 20 but a little cleaner. The engines are about the same in pwer/displacement ratio as most other Japanese and European engines, except for some high output units like some Honda VTECs and the Yamaha built engine in the Toyota Matrix and Corolla. The Duatec 20 puts out 136 HP and 133 lb-ft of torque v. the Corolla's 1.8l putting out 130 HP and 123 lb-ft, mileage is 26/35 v. 32/40 with manuals respectively. The Toyota may have some advantage in efficiency, but Foci are a bit larger and heavier. The Focus is significantly roomier, especially in the rear seat and luggage area, and comes in a variety of body styles. Pick what fits you best.
Jun 01, 2004 (2:54 pm)
I was at my local Ford dealer last week and the sales manager told me that they would most likely be selling the Focus diesel in late 2006. He said that Ford is waiting for ULSD and wants to be able to sell it in all 50 states. He said the specs, based on the Euro Focus diesel, shows it getting 45 to 50 MPG. I would give almost anything for a car that got 50 MPG right about now.
Jun 02, 2004 (1:02 pm)
pay $22,500 for a Hybrid Focus, $19,500 for a diesel Focus and $3000 under sticker for a Focus PZEV.
Jun 10, 2004 (5:04 am)
they get a coupe-cabriolet (at bottom of the article) later on. Why can't we get it? Along with the new Focus!
#25 of 67 FOLDING SIDE MIRRORS
Jun 13, 2004 (7:43 am)
I know that the 05 4 door sedan sport model has them. Any other 05s? Is this tied to a cold weather package?
#27 of 67 Re: I would [jchan2]
Aug 09, 2004 (11:56 am)
I'll take a diesel wagon please. ATX also, getting lazy and traffic jams are hard on clutches & legs. Also Neds experience reminder me of my first car 59 Karman Ghia, ran into dad's in the drive winter boots covered all three pedals. The Old marine was NOT happy! Guess I'm going to have to bone up on the Focus the 2.3 gone for 2005 and the 2.0 is back but not the old Zetec 2.0 I hope? Duratec 20?