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#448 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [gagrice]
Aug 17, 2005 (3:28 am)
It appears that the problem with the Liberty is MUCH more serious than the problem with the Prius. At least they know how to solve the issue with the Prius. If you look at the Liberty Diesel forum virtually all the recent posts have to do with owners having tons of different problems. Most of them can't even tow because of the overheating issue. I had high hopes for the diesel Liberty and I do hope they solve the problems. Gary is right though, owners do love their diesels. A few folks even had DC take them back because of the numerous issues.
#449 of 453 Re: Like I said - if everyone was "SMART" and waited two years [gagrice]
Aug 17, 2005 (7:26 am)
quote gagrice-"I'm not sure where that got started. My understanding is the first Prius was sold in Japan December 1997. They did not have a concept car until late 1995."-end quote
Gary, they were "road testing" the car in late 1994, and did not have a "auto show ready" concept car to show off until October 27th 1995. And way long before they can put something like a hybrid drivetrain actually into a car, they spend thousands of "lab hours" developing and testing the hardware.
#450 of 453 Re: Like I said - if everyone was "SMART" and waited two years [larsb]
Aug 17, 2005 (8:50 am)
The point is the current Prius that is by all I have read much improved over the Classic, is less than two years old. The only hybrid that has more than 5 years on the road in the US is the Honda Insight, that went on sale in 1999. The Classic owners are already seeing some big repair bills associated with the hybrid system. The stalling issues did not surface until the 2004 MY.
How much should a person pay to be an early adopter of a new technology? When I considered the Prius back in 2000, the biggest selling point for me was the 8 year 100k mile B to B warranty. I am not sure how long they offered that. That included ALL service for that warranty period. They did not want any other shops working on the car. The price was $20k plus TTL.
#451 of 453 Let's stick to the topic
by pf_flyer HOST
Aug 17, 2005 (3:05 pm)
If you wish to discuss specific vehicles like the Prius or Liberty or whatever, please use the Browse by Vehicle search tool in the left siderbar to find the specific discussions for those vehicles.
Let's keep this one restricted to more general points and helping folks decide what type of vehicle to buy.
#453 of 453 I Recommend The PRIUS....& Why
Aug 19, 2005 (7:05 pm)
Why the Prius?...Toyota quality and above average dealer service (at least mine was). The car really sells itself. Roomy seating and fairly comfortable seats. The Hybrid technology is superb once you get to a level of understanding it all. The milage goes without saying(47-55 mpg's) average. Hey!! It's a good looking car to boot. I like a hatchback for several reasons. Very versitile flip down seats. Storage everywhere. The CVT tranny is a blast...no shifting of gears. The transition from ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) to Stealth (Electric) is uncommonly smooth. When stuck in traffic I smile at the gas guzzlers eating fuel while I'm in electric mode burning nada gas. Going nearly 500 miles to a tank of gas is great!! Lastly, I enjoy my bumper stickers....(A Picture of a metal screw then O.P.E.C.) or Happiness is owning a Hybrid. My plate read 55 MPG. Nuff Said!
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