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#414 of 453 Re: Buy a Honda Civic Hybrid [markdel]
Jul 07, 2005 (3:24 pm)
However, looking back on the other posts again, it is apparent that since I did not end my post by "____Good Luck", it probably does not mean anything.
#415 of 453 Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel
Aug 09, 2005 (5:47 pm)
I hope I'm not repeating an earlier question, but for the small SUV choices, I'm stumped as to which one is the better value. I don't need to tow anything so the small towing capacity of the Escape is moot. I've never owned a diesel so I'm concerned about the mess, etc. Does anyone have any insight or opinion as which model is superior.
#416 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [mbrady1]
Aug 09, 2005 (5:55 pm)
Definitely stay away from the Liberty Diesel. Look at the thread and it appears there are tons of problems. I too was interested in that truck until I read some reports from the car magazines. It is noisey, lots of vibrations, and yes dirty. If you need a small SUV but don't go off road too much a great small SUV would be the Hyundai Tuscon. It is reasonably priced (much less than the FEH) and has good performance AND it has stability control and ABS.
#417 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [mbrady1]
Aug 09, 2005 (6:01 pm)
Value in what way? Based on pure economics it might be hard to justify either one, compared to an ICE-only small SUV with good fuel economy (which start at about $16k nicely equipped). Take a look at the current Car & Driver. They were none too complimentary on the clatter from the Liberty's diesel. OTOH, you won't be facing a battery replacement at some time in the future (if you keep the car long enough) with the Liberty. In city driving, the Escape should do better than the Liberty in fuel economy, but on the highway it's more even.
#418 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [mbrady1]
Aug 10, 2005 (12:14 pm)
I'd stay away from the Escape Hybrid for a couple of years until Ford works out all the kinks.
I can recommend the CR-V if the vehicle fits your style (drive one and you'll know). It gets about 22 in town and 27 highway, with lots of standard safety features.
#419 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [stevedebi]
Aug 10, 2005 (2:05 pm)
Quote Stevedebi-"I'd stay away from the Escape Hybrid for a couple of years until Ford works out all the kinks."-end quote
I think that is AWFUL advice to give someone. If we ALL did that, we'd still be driving Horse and Buggy or the Model T !! No car company would continue making new models if no one bought one for two years - and how would the "kinks" get worked out if not out in the Real World ???
Be an early adopter, help promote the technology, and buy a warranty or car insurance that includes Rental Car coverage for when your car is in the shop......
#420 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [larsb]
Aug 10, 2005 (4:32 pm)
"Be an early adopter, help promote the technology, and buy a warranty or car insurance that includes Rental Car coverage for when your car is in the shop......"
I stand by my statement. If you prefer to be an "early adoptor", feel free. I say this about a Ford product; I would have little problems with a first year model from Honda, for example.
Warranties don't reimburse me for the cost of my time if the vehicle has to go back and forth to the shop, or for time spent on the freeway during a breakdown. Or for the frustration levels. The Ford drivetrain is unproven, in my opinion. How would you feel if you were one of the "early adopters" of the Saturn Vue CVT?
It is up to the reader to decide if he/she wishes to embark into the unknown...
#421 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [stevedebi]
Aug 10, 2005 (6:04 pm)
Any new car be it hybrid or conventional always has problems the first two years of production. Enough people who always want the newest and the best will buy the early ones and they eventually fix the problems. Be smart and wait. It is the companies responsibility to prove to the buyers their product is worth buying.
#422 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [slickwill]
Aug 10, 2005 (7:06 pm)
I've bought new model year cars in the past without any problems. However, new models sometimes do have teething problems.
#423 of 453 Re: Escape hybrid vs. Jeep Liberty diesel [falconone]
Aug 10, 2005 (7:37 pm)
You mean like those redesigned small SUVs that had a major problem with oil filters, causing fires? Which SUVs were those, again?