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Replying to: djasonw (May 11, 2004 3:56 am) I have a 2000 Beetle TDI. Yes, standing still it is a little noisier than a gas engine, and it does puff a little smoke. At idle, it is not that different. However, at cruising speed, it is quieter than the gas counter part, and how do you spend most of your time in a car? The majority of mine is spent moving on the road, not sitting in the driveway. I average 45 mpg around town and have hit 56 on the highway. Around town, I have a cruising distance of over 500 miles per tank and right now diesel is about 30 cents cheaper than gas. I am planning on looking at a second TDI beetle today, so that I can let my Avalanche sit until gas comes down again. But if you really want to talk about smooth, check out the 04 Passat TDI. From inside, you can't tell the difference. From outside, it is a little noisier at the light but not cruising.
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Replying to: ncskibum (Jun 03, 2004 6:08 am) ___Like Mercades, Volvo, VW... ever have to actually drive behind one or trapped behind one at a drivethrough? Those puffs of smoke will sting your eyes shut! "However, at cruising speed, it is quieter than the gas counter part" ___What are you comparing this to? "I average 45 mpg around town and have hit 56 on the highway." "I have a cruising distance of over 500 miles per tank" ___I average 58-59MPG with almost every tank in my HCH, sometimes up to +65MPG and get more than +700 miles on 13 gallons of gas. 45-56MPG is nothinng compared to some of the hybrids at greenhybrid dot com real world driver data "I am planning on looking at a second TDI beetle today" ___Looking at the thread topic, what kind of Hybrid are you looking at: are you here just to trash or are you trying to sell them? "But if you really want to talk about smooth, check out the 04 Passat TDI. From inside, you can't tell the difference." ___Can't tell the difference from what? I guarantee a CVT is smoother and the car is more beautiful.
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I had to laugh. My friend has numerous cars and one of them is a mid 80's Mercedes Turbo Diesel 300D (something like that). If someone is tailgaiting him, he floors it and the bellows of smoke behind is UNREAL. You quickly see the tailgater back off. I test drove a TDI back in 1999 and the rough idle and vibrations at idle really turned me off. I sit in a lot of traffic and couldn't deal with the NVH. If there was no such thing as a hybrid, I'd be driving a TDI for sure, but now that the Prius is here it's a moot point. I am sure they've improved over the last 5 yrs. I will definitely try one out again and report back. Bear in mind, I have NOTHING against the TDI, I just prefer the Prius.
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| I guess when you have to plug in your Prius, it is kinda inconvenient. Whoops, comparing a newer Diesel to an old one shows ignorance just like above. I am surprised you didn't compare it to an 18 wheeler or a farm tractor. I have also driven a new Passat TDI and came away very impressed. It was about as smooth on the road as the Passat V6 model- just wish they would bring over one with a manual. Even better, I wish that Honda would bring over the new Accord Diesel sold in Europe. | |
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> new Passat TDI Does it fall under the current EPA restrictions? 5 states don't allow sales of passenger diesel vehicles at all, because they are so much more dirty than the typical gasoline passenger vehicle. 45 states only allow a small amount to be sold, also due to emissions. Haven't you ever wondered why we haven't seen more, despite the continued improvements in diesel technology? JOHN
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Replying to: john1701a (Jun 04, 2004 4:23 pm) |
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Replying to: misterme (Jun 04, 2004 1:59 pm) A - breathing Yep comparing a old diesel to a new one isn't realistic but neither is saying diesel fuel is cheaper than gas, it is and there is good reason for that, diesel fuel is nasty stuff, if you own a diesel you know what I mean, its nasty just sitting there and it doesn't get much better once your up to speed. Now with LSD or biodiesel we may have a whole new ballgame. Hey all I'll be out of pocket till the middle of this month (piney woods of east Texas, no internet) so don't think i'm trying to dodge the issue. |
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Replying to: djasonw (Jun 04, 2004 2:42 pm) MidCow P.s anything turbo scared me as fas as long term relability.
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Replying to: xcel (Apr 29, 2004 7:16 pm) How does the iCDTi acceleration compare to the Toyota Prius ? It appears the Prius is significantly slower. Thanks, MidCow
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jun 05, 2004 5:58 pm) Dennis |
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