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back on topic (HEVs in HOV lanes) by rfruth
Apr 12, 2004 (12:31 pm)
It's not surprising that Bill Ford & Co. want hybrid credits, our government subsidizes all kind of things now but what I can't figure out is Schwarzenegger endorsing carpool lanes for HEVs that get 45 MPG or better (i.e. not the big 2.5, only Japan for now) whats going on here ? Is the Ford Futura (whatever its name will be) hybrid supposed to get the required MPG or is there something else cooking or is this a real step toward the vision of a "hydrogen highway" ?
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djasonw by boaz47
Apr 12, 2004 (1:07 pm)
Europe is doing fine? Strange last time I looked we had a higher standard of living than Europe. But they do have quite a few more diesels than we do and even have a smart car diesel that gets 80 mpg without being a hybrid. In fact I think California has a bigger economy than many European states. I hope no one here aspires to fall back to a European quality of life? That is depressing.
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Saw a good cartoon in the paper - $9.65 /gallon by midnightcowboy
Apr 12, 2004 (1:24 pm)
Two guys were talking at a gas station, one with a full-size truck and the other with a large SUV. The price of gas on the pump was $9.65 And one driver was saying to the other, " I am going to quit driving if the price ever gets to $10 a gallon".
 
I don't think gas price is going to be the motivating factor for most people to go to the Prius or other high mileage alternatives.
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midnightcowboy by boaz47
Apr 12, 2004 (1:58 pm)
It isn't that we that have trucks wouldn't like better fuel mileage. My F-250 Power Stroke gets better fuel mileage than a Tundra or Titan and can haul twice as much. It is just that we love our trucks so much for all that we can do with them. Yes, my truck weighs a bunch and yes if a small car and I happen to cross bumpers I win, every time. And it isn't about accidents either because I doubt if there is any proof that trucks are in more accidents than small cars. It is about what they can do now and not losing any of that. If they come out with a Hybrid truck like the Dodge with the generator I can see truck owners going for that. But they won't if that have to give up as large a percentage of performance in Pulling and towing as hybrid car owners have to give up today. The problem is that until hybrids will do what ICE vehicles already do and as well as ICE cars do it why get a hybrid? But if the new hybrids do haul, tow and perform as well as the ICE vehicle they replace plus get better fuel mileage who will complain? Still till they get to that place you only have two choices, Honda and Toyota. Other wise look for something else.
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Re: midnightcowboy [boaz47 #269] by backy
Apr 12, 2004 (2:07 pm)

Replying to: boaz47 (Apr 12, 2004 1:58 pm)

I thought it was GM's trucks that have the mild hybrid design with the built-in generator. And they are in production today for fleet use, later this year to the public, according to a report I read in MT. Do Dodge trucks have that design too?
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backy by boaz47
Apr 12, 2004 (2:38 pm)
Dodge has been testing their hybrids with the Military for a year or two now. The concept truck comes with a Generator that can be used for workmen that need the electric power once on the Job site. But for now no one can get them except the government so still your choices are Honda and Toyota. But many of the people I have been off road with add generators and air compressors to their trucks for off road repairs. If we can do it it seems strange they have taken so long to offer one as an option on a dealer truck.
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This is just the beginning ..be patient by djasonw
Apr 12, 2004 (2:54 pm)
The Prius is just the beginning. The technology is being tested and now it will be introduced in a crossover SUV. I definitely see a truck version within five years or less.
 
RE: European lifestyle... Boaz.. when was the last time you were in Europe? Granted we do have a wonderful lifestyle here in America, but when I visited Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Holland, France, Monaco, the people seemed to have a very nice lifestyle driving their little cars around. So nice not to see those obnoxious trucks and SUVs. But those two stroke mopeds are REALLY annoying.
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is there by nippononly
Apr 12, 2004 (3:59 pm)
going to be a hybrid Dodge Durango? What with Pilot, Highlander, etc coming on-line in the next 18 months, that might not be a bad place to start.
 
I realized later today that Bill Ford was referring to the hybrid Mariner when he said there would be two hybrid SUVs next year from the Ford company. Big whoop - two IDENTICAL SMALL SUVs, the Escape and Mariner. I wonder how many they would sell if they came up with a hybrid Explorer.
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New Hybrid article on the site by Sylvia STAFF
Apr 16, 2004 (7:12 am)
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Re article by backy
Apr 16, 2004 (8:06 am)
Nice job on the article, Edmunds! Very comprehensive without getting into micro-detail.

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