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#91 of 160 by nvbanker Apr 01, 2004 (5:08 pm)
Like Toyota grew into the Lexus LS 400?
#92 of 160 by dondilio Apr 01, 2004 (5:46 pm)
Mazda has developed a great and desirable line of cars they'll probably be reliable. New Mazdas reward its drivers with a smile on their face every time they drive it. If they can keep up the good work they can go up market, they might even get to build their failed Amanti luxury line in 5 or 10 years. In order to do that, they must, like I said earlier, mature with their customers, have an offering above what they currently drive to keep them in their brand fold. In 3-5 years what will happen to 6 drivers if they dont offer a 9 or a bigger crossover? They'll probably switch to Toyota, Acura or Lexus. Im sure that with the current line-up they will win a lot of loyal customers. They can count me in for that matter, of course as long as they have a product that fits my needs. In 3 or 4 years when I will be in they market for a new sedan Ill would really consider a larger 6 with the same sporty character(9). If on the contrary they dont have anything to offer me Ill probably look at the Lincoln Zephyr or LS.
#93 of 160 Exactly! by nvbanker Apr 01, 2004 (7:05 pm)
When I was ready (actually needed for the job) an upscale car, if Lincoln hadn't been there, I would have moved away from Ford. But so far, Lincoln has filled my needs well.   If I were a Mazda loyalist, and I need more than the 6, well, off we go! The 929 had a good following around here. One of my employees drives a Millenia, very nice car, but not quite large enough for my sedan needs.
#94 of 160 Like Toyota grew into the Lexus LS 400? by r2s2 Apr 01, 2004 (7:49 pm)
Mazda already took their run at that, with the abortive Amati line, so I doubt they'll go there again. I suspect that, as someone said before me, that they're more likely to move into the $30-35,000 market, with a car (9?) which will be to the 6 what the Avalon is to the Camry.
#95 of 160 by nvbanker Apr 01, 2004 (7:53 pm)
Makes sense to do it that way.
#96 of 160 r2s2 by audia8q Apr 02, 2004 (7:37 am)
Like you, I don't expect mazda to offer a new luxury division like Amati...but remember, they did amati on their own without Ford's help. Ford was the one who actually forced them to pull the plug on the idea...   But as it was pointed out...Mazda has aquired a whole new bunch of buyers who purchased the MZ6...many of these owners have nowhere to go in the mazda line if they want to move up. Mazda does not want to lose these people.
#97 of 160 Mazda9 by masc Apr 22, 2004 (8:58 am)
The possibility of a Mazda9 is very slim, at least not anytime soon anyways. Mazda itself does not even have its own mid-size engine (3-some liters) as the current 3.0L in the Mazda6 and MPV is just a Ford Duratec 30. That is why in other parts of the world, other than North America, where Ford does not own a part of Mazda, Mazda6's and MPV's only come with a 2.3L as it is Mazda's own engine. To start its way to a Mazda9, Mazda would first have to either make its own mid-size engine or have the current 3.0L V6 available thorughout the world. THEN they can start to consider to make a Mazda9.
#98 of 160 by ANT14 Apr 22, 2004 (9:19 am)
They will be using the Duratec 3.5L V6 from Ford.
#99 of 160 Response to post 97(masc:) by carguy58 Apr 22, 2004 (9:50 am)
"Mazda itself does not even have its own mid-size engine(3-some liters)as the current 3.0L in the Mazda and Mazda MPV is just a Ford Duratec 30."   Mazda just doesn't put the Duratec in the Mazda 6 or MPV. Mazda itself does have finishing touches on those engines.   Mazda has made its own V-6 engines in the past. The Miller-Cycle engine that was used in the Millenia got its positive amount of press. The last generation 626 was all Mazda which was a 2.5 liter engine and made 170 horsepower. I guess Mazda uses the Duratec to save money. Nothing wrong with that all long as Mazda has finishing touches on the Ford Engines I don't have a problem with it.
#100 of 160 masc by audia8q Apr 22, 2004 (10:54 am)
You say..."That is why in other parts of the world, other than North America, where Ford does not own a part of Mazda.."   Ford owns controlling interest in mazda, worldwide...not just north america.   has anyone considered the idea that a higher end mazda might have a rotary? They are currently working on more powerful versions with more than the twin rotors..

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