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#157 of 160 Re: [masc] by bronstahd Jun 20, 2007 (11:36 pm)
Replying to: masc (Apr 22, 2004 5:08 pm) ANT14, i DID say mid-size engine... why would they make another model, more expensive than the 6 but has an engine that is only several ten horses more power? The MAzda series would not make sense if only a 3.5L is going to be put in a 9. The 3 is a compact - 2.0L & 2.3L engines (small engines). The 6 has a 2.3L (base) and a 3.0L mid-size engine. So why make ANOTHER mid-size car for the 3.5L (supposedly put into a 9) as this mid-size engine would not provide adequate power for a larger sedan. This "9" would not be able to sell at all, the gap between the 6 and the supposed 9 would be way too close.   Sorry... what? You are aware, I'm sure, that the Toyota Avalon utilizes a 3.5L engine, right? The same 3.5L engine that you can get in a Camry. And that the Nissan Maxima also uses a 3.5L engine? The same engine that you can get in an Altima. The same is true, as far as I can tell, of all the major manufacturers except Ford (which for some reason only offers the Fusion with the 3.0L Duratec even though the 3.5L was available when they introduced the model... I guess they were just trying to make a slower, uglier version of the Mazda6). I don't think it is correct to say that it wouldn't make sense to offer a 3.5L option in the 6 and standard in the 9.   I do agree with your other arguments, though. I think it's unlikely Mazda will develop a new 9 until they can offer a bigger engine world-wide. Whether that means the Duratec will become available or Mazda will develop their own V6 remains to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if either, or neither, happen.   I will note that they developed CX-9 as an America only car. I wouldn't take that to mean they are going to develop the Mazda9 as an America only car, though. I doubt Mazda or Ford are foolish enough to believe the mid-size sedan market is as easy to break into as the crossover market.
#158 of 160 Mazda 929 by mazdaclassics Dec 10, 2007 (4:05 pm)
Hello Mazdadrivers,   As I am probably the only one in Holland with a very nice Mazda 929 (1988) and there is not much contact here so I thought, lets throw out a line out hope to exchange some knowledge and share my experiences.   My car has also AAS, whereas I believe not many cars had it at that time. I had luck and found it somewhere in the back of an old garage by a dealer in Holland. They wanted to put the car for sale to Poland where they all polish Dutch cars for own use.   The car is wonderfull and I found a digidash for it as well. Unfortunately not the rest of the equipment to get it used, but, one will never know.   My car has a SOHC 3.0i - v18 engine, automatic, CC and sunroof. Unfortunately no airco, nevertheless, a very fine car. On the www.mazdaclassics.nl I put some pics. Klik on the picture and see more of it.   Enjoy the visit. Anyone else has such a car?   My best regards Hans Replies to this message: hudsonthedog (Dec 31, 2007 12:42 pm)
#159 of 160 Re: Mazda 929 [mazdaclassics] by hudsonthedog Dec 31, 2007 (12:42 pm)
Replying to: mazdaclassics (Dec 10, 2007 4:05 pm) As I am probably the only one in Holland with a very nice Mazda 929 (1988)   Two generations of the 929 were sold in the US (in small numbers) before being replaced by the Mazda Millenia (Eunos 9, Xedos 9). Both cars were very good, but neither found a sizable market in the US. Adding a Mazda9 could be done (since it was done before), but I can't imagine that the end result would be a spectacular success.   As for a comparison, the Millenia came with a 2.5L V6 (same as the 626 of the time) or a Miller-cycle 2.3L V6 (more horsepower than the 626, but not wildly more).
#160 of 160 Re: Mazda9 [dondilio] by johnjewkes Apr 13, 2008 (7:04 pm)
Replying to: dondilio (Mar 22, 2004 9:53 pm) They already did it. It was the 929. It has a 3.8 Liter V-6. It's biggest problem was inavailability of parts via the normal outlets, (Almost all parts were dealer only, and dealer install only). Even the Parking brake pads (Separate from the service brake pads. It is RWD, and has twin turbos and great gas mileage (33 MPG on mine HWY, 28 City). That and the cheapie cable drives for the window cranks, and undersized motors on those cranks. Even came with a 6 CD changer by Panasonic!   Mine runs even after 268,000 miles, well built, just irksome on repair costs.

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