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#10 of 441 Main question not being adressed by steven2 Apr 06, 2004 (6:11 pm)
The main question or concern is, however:   Will this model bring in new customers, or customers who would not have bought a MB in the first place? Or will it take away from C, E, and even M class buyers? Inevitably it will lower not boost sales.   Can someone tell me what MB does not have that would sell very well and that they should have, seeing how the other luxury models have it? (Hint: Full-size, practical luxury SUV. I understand BMW has one in the makes, joining RR, LX470 and QX56) Replies to this message: benzsalesman (Feb 07, 2006 1:05 pm) merc1 (Feb 07, 2006 9:39 pm)
#11 of 441 steven2 by merc1 Apr 06, 2004 (8:44 pm)
Good points..... Yes I agree the CLS has the potential to take away buyers of both the E and S-Class, but also the CL or CLK, but I don't think it will. For one it looks like no other Mercedes and that should draw buyers into the MB fold that wouldn't have bought one before. The rear seat of the CLS is very impractical (2 pass) compared to the S or E-Classes, but it should provide more room than Mercedes' true "coupes".   I agree totally about the large SUV thing. I've wanted a Range Rover competitor since the day the M-Class was announced. Mercedes knows they want to build a 75-100K truck anyway, but they sold their souls to the volume market with the ML with disastrous (quality) results.   BTW, the 2005 C-Class is much improved in the area that it needed it the most, interior. Hopefully all those things under the skin that were unreliable have been dealt with also. Mercedes' philosophy about how a car should drive will never allow them to out-sport the 3-Series, so they need to give up trying to out-sport this car, just make the C-Class a reliable, high-quality, fun to drive car that can keep up with the 3-Series in that area, but make it more luxurious. That is correct the Mercedes formula.   sphinx99,   I don't think they're expecting it to do much for market share worldwide at just 50K units a year, which is a small drop in the Mercedes bucket. I think they did it honestly for more profit as the CLS uses mostly off-the-shelf E-Class parts (chassis, engine etc) with only the body and a very select few interior pieces being truly "new". I would imagine the CLS didn't cost much to develop.   M
#12 of 441 sphinx99 by merc1 Apr 06, 2004 (9:46 pm)
And it don't stop...lol.   http://www.mbusa.com/brand/aboutus/news/newsFrame2004.jsp   M
#14 of 441 Mercedes Benz by jchan2 Jun 10, 2004 (5:14 am)
has a few issues that I noticed at NAIAS early in the year to fix.   I opened the trunk on the C230 Kompressor sedan and the lid just flew up and almost twisted my arm. Geez. At least let the lid go up slowly. None of the other automakers had this problem, including Chevrolet, Suzuki, Hyundai, Kia and BMW. I opened the liftgate on a C230 SportCoupe and when I tried to close it the latch was jammed. Keep in mind this was a brand new $28,000 MERCEDES On every other car I sat in and opened the liftgate, there was no problem with the latch jamming. All the problems I encountered were at the Mercedes Benz display.   I do think the Crossover Concept they had on display was quite nice looking.
#15 of 441 by merc1 Jun 10, 2004 (9:30 pm)
Cars at autoshows are regularly abused. If owners were having these problems it would be all over the net.   M
#16 of 441 This article states by vcarreras Jun 14, 2004 (11:10 am)
that the B Class will be coming to NA in 2005.   http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=156,178&sid=178&a- mp;article=7100   I hope it will be well built! Wonder what powerplant and price. Anyone know?
#17 of 441 by wale_bate1 Jun 14, 2004 (11:48 am)
Oh I like it. I've seen the red shot before. Very, very hip.   Bring it on, says I.
#18 of 441 by merc1 Jun 14, 2004 (8:28 pm)
The A-Class appears to be kinda cute, but it doesn't belong here or any variant thereof. Now as a "Smart" badged vehicle it all makes perfect sense.   I swear at times I can't understand my own favorite brand. You bring Smart here as an outlet for cheaper vehicles, then give Mercedes a variant also? What the hell for?!   M
#19 of 441 by wale_bate1 Jun 15, 2004 (7:30 am)
But isn't this a bigger box with a bigger plant, or did I read that wrong?   Gotta let go of that brand image thing, Merc! You have to believe that Mercedes can be bigger and better than just Lux here. I know I do!

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