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Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class, Mercedes-Benz R-Class
#78 of 441 Recap
Feb 26, 2005 (11:47 am)
Mercedes for 2005 and 2006, new models:
2006 E350 (on sale now, 268hp V6)
2006 E55 Wagon (not confirmed yet)
2006 S65 AMG (On sale next month)
2006 CLS500 and CLS55 AMG (on sale now!)
2006 C350 (268hp V6)
2006 C280 (227hp V6)
2006 C230 (200hp V6)
All 3 on sale early summer/late spring 2005
SLK280 (227hp V6) On sale this fall.
ML350 (268hp V6)
ML500 (302hp V8)
Both on sale last week of April 2005
CLK - facelifted model range, including new CLK350. On sale this fall.
R-Class - debuts at New York Autoshow and goes on sale late fall/early winter 2005.
S-Class - debuts at the IAA (Frankfurt Auto Show) in Sept 2005, debuts here at Detroit 2006, goes on sale first quarter of 2006.
#79 of 441 2007 S-Class
Mar 01, 2005 (9:50 pm)
From a MB board, the supposedly S-Class engine lineup:
A S600CDI V12 diesel? Gee whiz.
#80 of 441 Geneva Diesels
Mar 02, 2005 (12:45 am)
At Geneva there are also SLK and SL diesels:
"A new V8 engine generates 231 kW/315 hp in the Vision SL 400 CDI and provides the eight-cylinder’s crankshaft with an outstanding torque of 730 Nm. The SLK 320 CDI tri-turbo, meanwhile, can generate an impressive 210 kW/286 hp and 630 Nm of torque from three litres of displacement (70.3 kW and 211 Nm per litre of displacement)."
#81 of 441 the future for mercedes-benz
Mar 05, 2005 (2:45 pm)
Clearly there are many points of view on where the diamler boys are steering their ship these days, both from cultural, and a business perspective. What mercedes is facing, as time goes on, is the same problem many manufacturers are. How can they put the younger generations behind the wheel of their product at a young enough age to make them lifelong drivers. That's the way they're looking at it, anyway. One could see it from the other angle: why not stay hyper- exclusive, and remain the prize to one day strive for. The suits over in the motherland have their reasons, I guess. Toyota has really turned them on their ear, though. Some of us are really fussing about the more recent MB designs, but they were forced to take their style in a new direction to distinguish themselves again. From a distance, it's hard to say if it's an LS, a legend/RL, or an S or E class. Other than a rear view camera, toyota hasn't produced an original idea that I can think of, they're just grifters with bargain basement prices. Engineering isn't enough, now it's a tech war, and because MB is at the front of it, they pay the price when their stuff breaks.
Mar 18, 2005 (6:46 am)
Indeed! How could I have forgotten?! That's a special car to some, myself included. My first one is in production as we correspond. It will be a short run, maybe a few thousand cars. Short wheelbase only, and will probably price around the mid 60's. That will make a really cool car for someone who otherwise would have settled for the E500. Sorry for the oversight! LOL!
#84 of 441 Re: merc1 [stroudman]
Mar 18, 2005 (8:38 pm)
You are forgiven.
Any word on when the new C350, C280 and V6 C230 will arrive? I'm so glad to see that I4 "Kompressor" engine leave the U.S. market.
Mar 19, 2005 (12:15 pm)
My database allows me to configure 2006 280's and 350's. That doesn't mean much until I actually get allocations and brochures, but it is likely that by this time next year those engines will all be here. SLK280 also. Things can always change, tho. A month ago I could build an '06 B200, but that stuff all vanished from my system, as you well know. All of these new engines are very exciting.
BTW, I really like the current I-4 Komp in 1.8 liter guise, but in addition to my normal bias, it's also because the prior 2.3 liter motor was so much more rude and crusty.
#86 of 441 stroudman
Mar 19, 2005 (12:21 pm)
Yeah I had read where all the new V6 models would be here by June, but the next generation V8s are the ones they aren't saying anything about. Its a big secret. It is about time for these new 6-cylinder model imo, the current V6s were being overrun.
I suspect if the Euro/dollar situation ever changes we'll get the B-Class I wouldn't be honest in saying I want it here. Wale_bate1 calls me a snob for this but I can't help it..lol.