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Where's Audi? Their in last place in sales, market share and have the weakest resale. And the electrical systems light up more than a 10 penny slot machine Vegas. Lexus is hardly worried about boutique little Audi. Hardly. The new Chicago garbage truck grilles are sure to turn this around though heheheh... The CLS is overstyled and a slyly done Jaguar rework (can't fool this old goat) just like they cloned the round headlight on the 96 E class and called it all new Mercedes design. So Mercedes has this so-called styling but their quality is in the toilet compared to the stronger Japanese. Which does the consumer care more about a kool looking curve or telling the boss can't come in today Jim fixing my car AGAIN. If Lexus is utter boredom that's a compliment because the E class is utter generic looking safe design that has an interior on level with Nissan of today. Merc1 your trying too hard sailor. You know your favorite brand is not what it use to be and that's all their fault. Competition brings out the problems that once were hidden or swept under. You can't wish away a problem or live in denial. My uncle wisely said way back wait till the Japanese get to the Germans they will feel the pain the domestics did. And they are. Another salute to Toyota the world's most powerful auto making money machine. |
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Lots of opinion (E-class styling/interior) there mixed in with some facts about Mercedes' reliability woes. If you don't like the CLS that is fine and of course your styling critique is your opinion. Mercedes has always been, beyond there three sedan models, a niche player and the CLS is just another car in that tradition. The SLK, SL, CL, G and SLR are all niche products. At this point I find the harping about reliability to be something that most here can do because they have nothing else to really talk about anymore. I don't expect any car company to be able to fix their problems overnight...long as they are doing something about it...it is encouraging to me. Mercedes seems to be doing something about their problems, trouble is Americans are slow to learn there is a problem and once they do they're even slower to realize the problem has been fixed. Oh, and I'm not saying the problem is fixed at Mercedes, but I am saying the ranting about it is beyond tired at this point. You'll talk about Mercedes' quality being in the toilet and I'll continue to say Lexus makes the worlds most boringly and/or derivative luxury cars inside and out, with both views being able to be supported by either surveys or roadtests, so we'll have to agree to disagree. M
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 20, 2005 3:36 pm) Mercedes is always very good about taking care of their customers. I personally find the complete lack of rearward vision on an RX as well as the "detached" driving experience of all Lexus models to be far worse of an engineering flaw than a software "flash" for an E class radio that shuts off a few times. At least a Mercedes has proper driving dynamics. P.S. Mercedes makes all the available models with more features because they can. It takes gifted engineering to build an arsenal such as theirs, that's why everyone else sits on the fence to see what Mercedes does first, then follows suit. |
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In agreement with one of Merc's earlier points, another reason why FWD may be the Achilles heel of the B-class here:  I think the concept is saleable overall (Golf has done pretty well for a hatch here), but why buy the Benz over a long-term player, now well-updated. If they'd made the B AWD, at least it would have a competitive angle against the incoming A3 (my personal current favorite for upcoming Lexus replacement). I don't buy the "price point dilutes the brand" argument. For me, it wasn't the price point I was after when I bought compact, but rather the size and characteristics. Small, very sporty, and with a premium range of choices of amenities is what I want. What I don't want is anything larger than what I have. Precious few options out there when you get right down to it. |
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I'm glad you liked the post! wale_bate1, I agree about the placement of the B-Class. I would think awd would be automatic option for the car, but nope. I really don't think the B-Class will be a hit, but they should sell as many of the R-Class as they can make. M |
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The B-Class has been taken off the U.S. website's "future models" section. I think they're leaning towards not bringing it here. Good decision imo. M |
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And the models keep a comin'.... 2007 R-Class - Will debut at either the New York Auto Show this April or 2006 Detroit Auto Show and goes on sale in the spring of 2006, approx. one year after the M-Class. Expect two V8s and an AmG model at a later date. No V6 so it and new ML don't overlap, but a diesel hybrid is very likely sometime after launch. 2006 M-Class - Is in pilot production now. Goes on sale in April as the ML350 (new DOHC V6) and ML500. ML320 CDI will be offered after the U.S. diesel fuel supply is cleaned up. The deadline for this is Aug/Sept 2006. The ML320 CDI will be a 2007 model at the earliest. 2006 CLK - This current model will be facelifted and on sale late summer/early fall in the U.S. Interior/exterior changes are slight. CLK320 becomes the CLK350. Details will be made public at the Geneva Motorshow in March. 2006 E350 - Goes on sale last week of Feb/first week of March. New 268hp DOHC V6 from SLK, and a real Sport package (seats, supsension, exhaust, shift buttons one wheel) will be available on the E350 and E500. 2006 C-Class - Engine-revised models will be shown in March at the Geneva Motorshow. The C320 becomes the C350. A futher revised Sport package is on board also. The C240 is to be replaced by the C280/C300 (some debate as to how it will be badged). Either way it is said to have a 228hp version of the new DOHC V6. Unlikely to happen, but rumored: the 4-cylinder C230 is to be replaced by a 2.5L 205hp version of the new DOHC V6, named the C230, not "C250" because the C230 Sedan has been so popular. Not sure what will happen to the C "Coupe" uh..hatchback. In Europe it gets all the new changes as the sedans/wagons. The C350 Wagon will come to the U.S. this fall. 2006 SLK-Class - Will get the smaller 228hp V6 mentioned above as an entry-level SLK280/300 model. No 4-cylinder SLKs are coming to the U.S. this time around. 2006/07 S-Class - Will debut at the IAA (Frankfurt) Autoshow in Sept. Should debut here at the 2006 Detroit Auto show. Engine lineup is all over the place. Everything from a new V6 S350 to a S600 CDI, yes a V12 diesel with 460hp and 800lb-ft of torque is rumored. After these and sometime in 2006 there will be a new CL, a G-Class replacment, a facelifted E-Class and truly frightening rumor...the SL gets a facelift to include a nose like the SLK/SLR! M |
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"After these and sometime in 2006 there will be a new CL, a G-Class replacment, a facelifted E-Class and truly frightening rumor...the SL gets a facelift to include a nose like the SLK/SLR!" They do that to the SL/CL and they will ruin one of the most beautiful cars on the road IMO. I'm definitely now a fan of the SLR nose. I am really looking forward to the R class in 06. And my wife had one of those "unloved" C coupes for 3 years, so be nice 
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Well at this point there are two Mercedes models that are pretty much definitely getting a facelift for 2007, the E-Class and SL. The E won't be anything dramatic, new V8, interior changes, equipment, lights, bumpers you know that type of stuff. The SL however is supposed to get a SLR/SLK type nose, and I agree that will ruin the car because unlike the SLR and SLK the SL wasn't designed for such a snout to begin with, plus the current front end is gorgeous as is. I agree it will ruin the car, at least in theory. M
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Already a correction to the above. I'm reading about and have seen some pics at MBCanada.com and autolies about the SL getting a facelift, and there is no SLR/SLK type nose. Thank goodness. M |
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