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#41 of 441 A Class by carman123 Aug 20, 2004 (8:43 am)
It was just announced that Mercedes will not bring the A class to the USA. I think this is a smart decision. I am in favor of having lots of new model choices, but I think the A would have flopped big-time. For any car that size to sell well here, it would need top-notch driving dynamics (like a Mini Cooper or BMW 1 series). I think BMW could do well in the USA with the 1 series if they use the 2.5 inline six. But I fear the A class would not handle as well or be as fun to drive. Nobody wants an average handling, small, and relatively expensive (I assume it would easily have cost over 20K) car in the USA. Replies to this message: rcf8000 (Dec 26, 2004 4:53 am) carman123 (Dec 26, 2004 8:26 am)
#42 of 441 CLS by wbreaux1 Dec 26, 2004 (3:19 am)
I am interested in the CLS500. I have a 2000 E320 and am looking for a new car. Considering Jaguar XJ and Corvette (nixed by wife). She is concerned about price, but for some reason likes the CLS because she likes the idea that if I do spend a lot of money, stick with Mercedes (go figure). Don't want an E because it's too similar to what I've had for 4.5 year.   I've seen pictures on the Internet and have read a little, but am looking for more information, such as specs and when exactly is will be available (I've heard January). Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.
#43 of 441 CLS by wbreaux1 Dec 26, 2004 (3:22 am)
Also, is there a discussion dedicated to or at least including more CLS talk?
#44 of 441 Re: A Class [carman123] by rcf8000 Dec 26, 2004 (4:53 am)
Replying to: carman123 (Aug 20, 2004 8:43 am) The B Class is coming to the USA, and from all appearances it is a stretched A class, identical to the A class from the front seats forward. Whether or not it has driving dynamics that would appeal to US drivers remains to be seen, but it appears to be an attractive package. Replies to this message: carman123 (Dec 26, 2004 8:26 am)
#45 of 441 Re: A Class [rcf8000] by carman123 Dec 26, 2004 (8:26 am)
Replying to: rcf8000 (Dec 26, 2004 4:53 am) I agree that the B Class is a more attractive package than the A Class, as the B looks like a scaled down version of the new R Class sports tourer. From a size standpoint, I think it is big enough to be viable. Whether it has the driving dynamics to compete with the Audi A3 and future BMW 1 series remains to be seen. I hope that Mercedes offers a version of the new 4 valve six cylinder engine family with the 7 speed G-tronic and 6 speed manual.
#46 of 441 Hey, Merc! by callmedrfill Dec 26, 2004 (4:17 pm)
It's been a long time. Salutations!      This seems to be a Benz-bashing site, so naturally I'd better investigate!      In short, yeah, Mercedesa is SMOTHERING the market in models, and not showing a commenserate increase in sales, so some beancounter should hold up a red-flag.      That B-Blass looks like a Mazda MPV to me. I can't see what it's competition would be, much less a price.      I dig the SL, CL, E-Class (except for the electric brakes and throttle), and the S-Class general styling (sans the S430 model, the Comand system, and the $10k too high price).          Everything else needs serious work.      The M seems to be getting attention as we speak.      The G is just too archaic outside.      The C should go to one model only, the C320, with stick and AWD available.      The CLS is just a strange-looking concept of a car, one better left at a car show turntable. Overstyled, a true misfit.      The B-Class: See above      The A-Class: See above      Drop one of the CL AMG models.      Give the C-sedan some original style, a sense of independence. It comes off as a half-pint S430 with no back seat, and a mutated cousin (C230).      Mercedes is becoming the GM of the luxury market. Overgrown, needs landscaping, furnace works good, but the piping has gone bad! Hate to say it, but it's true....      Desperate? Like no other.      DrFill (DIG) Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 19, 2005 9:36 pm)
#47 of 441 CLS Release by wbreaux1 Jan 19, 2005 (3:06 pm)
Does anyone have any update on when the CLS will be out. MB had said 1-17 but it's still not on their web site. I'm looking for official specs / pricing etc. Thanks. Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 19, 2005 9:36 pm) tmakogon (Feb 09, 2005 9:48 pm)
#48 of 441 Re: Hey, Merc! [callmedrfill] by merc1 Jan 19, 2005 (9:36 pm)
Replying to: callmedrfill (Dec 26, 2004 4:17 pm) Naturally I disagree with that rant.   This is the first time though I've heard of an "overstyled" car which say the CLS is. Is that opposed to a understyled or no-styled car that each and every Lexus is?   The only thing we might be close on the B-Class, while I personally don't have problem with its looks, the price and fwd layout are not traditional Mercedes and shouldn't be sold here.   Lexus: The relentless pursuit for complete and utter bordem.   M
#49 of 441 Re: CLS Release [wbreaux1] by merc1 Jan 19, 2005 (9:36 pm)
Replying to: wbreaux1 (Jan 19, 2005 3:06 pm) CLS info:   http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/CLS500C.jsp   M
#50 of 441 by wale_bate1 Jan 20, 2005 (9:15 am)
But for the FWD, the B-class appeals to me mightily. The size and look are no end enticing, IMO. The lack of RWD (or AWD as a second choice) means it's off my books from the get-go.   I assume the price is not traditional US Mercedes, and so therefore shouldn't come here. Codswallop.   Unfortunately, the closest Benz to a compact sport wagon (C320) was dropped like an old glove here, leaving nothing but the underpowered and overpriced C240 for the backpack enthusiast. I had hoped the B would be RWD and would take some of the sting away in range of power choices and perhaps an AMG. No.   On Lexus, my apparently soon to be former brand, the less said, the better. Thanks goodness for Audi...

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