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Re: Mercedes SL 63 [scott1256] by merc1
Feb 20, 2006 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Feb 20, 2006 7:59 am)

The numbers for the SL65 stay the same I think 612hp and 738lb-ft of torque or 604hp in U.S. numbers.
 
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I expect the SL 63.... [merc1] by scott1256
Feb 22, 2006 (7:48 am)
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will have a HP/torque boost in the next 12-18 months.
 
The spread between the V-8 and the V-12 has traditionally been greater than what it now is.
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Re: I expect the SL 63.... [scott1256] by merc1
Feb 22, 2006 (9:57 pm)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Feb 22, 2006 7:48 am)

Well when they do come out with the SL/CL/S "63" models they'll likely have a turbo version of the new AMG V8 with like 550-570hp. At that time I expect the "65" cars to get a boost to 650hp to keep them comfortably ahead of the new V8 models. I'm betting on the 2008 model year for this to take place.
 
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Re: I expect the SL 63.... [merc1] by scott1256
Feb 23, 2006 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Feb 22, 2006 9:57 pm)

That would be my guess about the timetable also. When this happens:
 
1) the actual HP spread between the V-8 and V-12 SLs will be bigger than ever.
 
2) on a percentage basis (14% boost from 570HP to 650 HP) the difference will be less than in the past.
 
For instance in 2002, the SL 600 was almost 29% more powerful than the SL 500, having 389 HP vs. the 302 HP of the V-8.
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Re: I expect the SL 63.... [scott1256] by merc1
Feb 23, 2006 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Feb 23, 2006 7:02 am)

I'm reading now on GCZ (GermanCarZone) that Mercedes is going to show a direct-injection version of the 3.5L V6. It produces 292hp (288 in the U.S.)/270 lb-ft torque in the facelifted E350 with a projected 26.6 MPG rating. Just like always expect this engine to spread to all the "350" models before the end of 2006. When I see something offical I'll post it here of course. This was taken from a rough translation of a German magazine. All of this is supposed to be shown at Geneva in a week or so.
 
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Will the new by scott1256
Feb 24, 2006 (5:49 am)
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SL 350 be available in the US at some point?
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Re: Will the new [scott1256] by merc1
Feb 24, 2006 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Feb 24, 2006 5:49 am)

I doubt it. MBUSA seems to have sworn off entry level engines in the SL and other high-end models for good. There won't ever be a CLS350 or S350 either for the U.S. market it seems. I can see a S320 CDI being sold here, but a "regular" V6 S/SL nope.
 
I personally wouldn't mind seeing a CLK280 or E280 with the smaller 3L 228hp V6. BMW sells plenty of 525is without a problem.
 
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Mercedes-Benz Direct Injection V6 Premier by merc1
Feb 24, 2006 (9:00 am)
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The recently introduced 3.5L V6 now has direct-injection. In short 292hp/270lb-bt of torque/26 MPG, 288hp for the U.S. market conversion. We should see this engine late this year for the facelifted 2007 E350 and as always the ML350,R350,CLK350, and SLK350 will all get this engine sooner or later, but probably sooner. For the 2007 model year on some of these would be my guess.
 

 
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I thought [merc1] by scott1256
Feb 27, 2006 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Feb 24, 2006 8:57 am)

last fall the plan was to make the S350 available here in the US.
 
I think both the S350 and the SL350 would sell well in the USA.
 
It must be an image thing for MBUSA that keeps the entry models out.
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Re: I thought [scott1256] by merc1
Feb 28, 2006 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Feb 27, 2006 7:02 pm)

Oh yes, definitely an image thing as to why the new S350 or SL350 won't be sold here. Also, I think MBUSA was tired of seeing those V6 models losing comparison tests because they were down on power which of course they were being in an all V8 segment.
 
I personally think there is a good market for a SL350 or a S350. Not everyone wants a V8 or loads of hp, just adequate power with all the other luxuries a SL/S-Class provides. The W140 S320 (1992-1999) made up 40 percent of the S-Class sales in the U.S. during some of those years so I've read. I wish I could see the numbers on how many 2006 S350s were sold. Anytime the dealer had any they'd be gone in a week or so.
 
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