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Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class, Mercedes-Benz R-Class
#243 of 441 Re: The House that Merc Built! [callmedrfill]
Nov 02, 2005 (10:21 pm)
Ok, I'll bite.
What's up with the 2.5L, 200HP C230? Why isn't it the C250? Are they trying to be like Lexus with a 2.5?
Nothing to do with Lexus. The 2.5L V6 has been out in Europe since spring long before the IS250. I'm glad they didn't call it a "250" at this point to avoid confusion. I suspect that when the next C comes along it will be called the "C250" with a hp increase via direct injection.
Quite a gap between the C350 and E-350, no? $12k is quite a chasm in the heart of the market, no? Also considering the fact that the E-Class is similar in size to many cars in the $30-40k class.
True, which is why I've said all along Mercedes needs to answer the BMW 525i with an E280 model, but MBUSA isn't interested. Size alone doesn't dictate class.
With all the new car introductions recently and impending, should sales be higher, or are the proliferation of new models just feeding off other family members?
Yeah they should be higher, but the problem is that MB's lineup is being shored up by specialty models like the SLK and CLS and SUV/Wagons like the M and R-Classes, these models alone aren't enough to make sales jump dramatically when the bread and butter models like the C, E and S are all down from a year ago. Especially since SUV type vehicles are seemingly losing favor at every brand now because of high gas prices. The S being new and the E pending a facelift will do much better in CY 2006, but the C has a long road ahead of it until summer 2007 when the 2008 C is expected to arrive here.
My own theory behind them bringing over the S350 was to see if there was still a market for it, thus deciding on whether or not to bring over the next generation S350. The Benz faithful are in the dark on that one. It seems to be selling, but there is no talk of a W221 S350 model being sold here next year.
Do YOU like the idea of a 227HP SLK? I think a six and and eight should cover it, and further dumbing-down hurts it's cache, but you are the expert here.
Yes, because the SLK280 is no slouch and it certainly isn't a "cheap" car by any means. Have you checked the new SLK out? SLK sales are as high as they've ever been. Now a 4-cylinder SLK would cheapen the brand imo, but there are no more 4-pot Benz coming to the U.S. anymore.
#244 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [merc1]
Nov 22, 2005 (11:46 pm)
Does anyone know when exactly the CLS500 gets the new 382 hp engine?
If a car is ordered now for delivery sometime in the new year, will it have the new engine?
#245 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [mssurrey]
Nov 23, 2005 (2:52 pm)
Well the CLS500 will most definitiely become the CLS550 for the 2007 model year.
Since the S is the first to have this new engine I would exepect than any CLS models ordered past Feb-March 2006 will be the a 2007 model, just a guess.
#246 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [merc1]
Nov 23, 2005 (7:22 pm)
I assume that this also applies to the ML 500 as well ?
#247 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [mssurrey]
Nov 25, 2005 (1:12 pm)
I assume that this also applies to the ML 500 as well ?
Yep. All the "500" cars will become "550" cars for 2007. CLK, SL, CL, S, E, CLS, ML, R and the new "GL" will all get the new V8. There might be a "450" version of some of these running the smaller 4.6L V8 from the upcoming S450 (335hp), but that isn't clear.
#248 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [merc1]
Nov 26, 2005 (3:04 pm)
Well Merc the Audi has arrived and I know you like them along with Mercedes....They are really vastly different cars each with their fine differences..I got the sports suspension--a real gamble for me--and find it to be just what I hoped it would be...As you have said many times in the past, the feel of a car is so personal that words really can not convey what the feeling is..I can say that I do not really think any of the mmi-idrive-or mercedes`version are configured in a way to be worth the aggrivation of using them. I know there are alot of options but , so far , I don`t think all these selections are necessary or will be used that often, unless they program them so they have to be used each time you start the car. I would venture to say that the Lexus may not go this route....On the Audi I have begun to make headway undrestand the many functions so I am not coming from ignorance....I can hardly wait to be able to see the Mercedes in the flesh, and further to use the command setup..Tony
#249 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [anthonyp]
Nov 29, 2005 (4:07 am)
I'm really glad you've got your car! I hope it is everything you expected. I am surprised you got the sports suspension though. Can we get some pics on the Audi A8 thread?
#250 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [merc1]
Nov 29, 2005 (8:03 am)
Are there any plans for a 4matic CLS in the near future? Otherwise I need to have a separate winter car for Cleveland, OH.
#251 of 441 Re: Mercedes-Benz - The Future [oxford9]
Nov 29, 2005 (10:33 pm)
Are there any plans for a 4matic CLS in the near future?
No CLS 4Matic models will be built according to everything ever said about the CLS.
#252 of 441 Mercedes News
Nov 30, 2005 (6:44 am)
It appears that for 2007 the E and CLS models will no longer use the SBC braking system. I didn't think Mercedes would spend the money to make such a running change, but apparently it is being incorporated with the facelift of the E-Class and since the CLS uses the same chassis it will also lose the electro-hydraulic brakes. Whoopie!
Smart, but costly move.